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us to stand up, speak out, get involved, and let's
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be intentional. On January sixth, twenty twenty one, in Washington, DC,
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it was bone chillingly cold, and hundreds of thousands of
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Americans went to let their voice be heard, peacefully and
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patriotically walking up Constitutional Avenue.
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It felt like a festival rally to me. We were singing,
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we were praying in groups, we were holding hands, we
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were waiting flags. I had no idea who these.
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People were, but it was like a family reunion was happening. Meanwhile,
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on the West Terrace, according to multiple reports of those
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that I have interviewed in the past, what occurred was
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likened to feeling and hearing a bomb go off.
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People were running toward the police. The police were.
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Mingling in with the crowd, and some of the police
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were very violent.
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There was yelling, there was screaming.
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There was much sympathetic nervous system stimulation that fight or
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flight type of reaction was occurring.
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These reactions were.
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Being caused by an attack of tear gas, pepper spray,
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and concussion grenades, the non lethal munitions of all kinds
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that were being lagged at them. What has occurred since then,
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to more than fourteen hundred men and women who attended
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the rally three and a half years ago, has been
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an onslaught of FBI raids, criminal prosecutions, imprisoned torture, weaponization
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of the justice system, and pain. Today we are going
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to lean in with two very special guests.
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One is Maria Goodwin. She is a J.
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Six advocate and mother of J six defendant Daniel Goodwin.
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And then Myra Christiansen, whose husband is currently a political
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prisoner and suffering.
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With a severe medical issue.
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Now, before I bring in my two wonderful guests, I
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want you to watch.
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This Spector General Horwitz.
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Over the past three years, I've questioned FBI Director Ray
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and Attorney General Mary Garland about the federal assets, such
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as confidential human sources, that were present on January sixth
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at the Capitol, and they have continuously stonewalled me. We've
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got no answers whatsoever about this from them. Now, you
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announced that you were going to do a review of
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the DOJ response and preparation, mainly preparation I think for
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January sixth.
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When did you start that review? When did you announce
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that review?
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We announced it in twenty twenty one, but we ended
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up pausing it because of the ongoing criminal cases. Consistent
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with how we perform our work, We've reinitiated it last
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year and I'm in the process of reviewing a draft
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of the report.
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So three and a half years ago it was announced
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that you'd be doing this review, and we still don't
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have the review, do we No?
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As I said, the reason is we paused the review
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because of the ongoing criminal work. That would consistent with
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our practice, we don't interfere with ongoing criminal investigations.
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So now that you've restarted it, do you have evidence
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of the number of confidential human sources that we're operating
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on the Capitol grounds on January sixth?
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Our report will include the information in that regard.
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Can you tell us today how many there were? Were
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there more than one hundred?
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I'm not in a position to say that, both because
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it's in draft form and we have not gone through
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the classification reviews, so I need to be careful on
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what So.
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We're four years in The reason to do these reports,
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I think, is so we don't make this if there
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were any mistakes, not to make the same mistakes again.
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But we are just weeks away from the inauguration.
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We're four years, almost four years into this report.
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When is it going to be released?
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It's certainly my hope and expectation, Although I don't control
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this entirely because it has to go through a classification review,
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but certainly in the next couple of months is my do.
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You think is there any consideration for the election about
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the release of this report?
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Would you delay it in order to not.
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Release it before the right before the election.
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At this point, given.
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The process that has to play out in terms of classification,
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view and all of that, I'm not making it.
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I don't have to make.
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Any judgment about that. We're still that still has to
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go on.
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Just but gimius sense it when I did the five
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So you're saying it's not even going to be done
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in time for before the election, It doesn't.
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I doubt it would be done in time for the election.
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Is it going to be done before the inauguration?
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That is certainly my hope and your hope.
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We're four years into it and we know. What we
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do know is you're going to.
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Expose that there were confidential human sources at the capitol.
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Do you can you tell us today how many went
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into the Capitol?
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We I'll have that information in the report.
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I'm not able to speak to information in there, but
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it's because it's in draft and we get a response
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from the department in the FFR, but also.
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Because I don't know yet what's classified.
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And not classified.
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So if they broke the law if they went into
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the Capitol, which I we pretty much know there were
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confidential human sources who went into the Capitol and right
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there alongside of everybody else. Wouldn't they need to follow
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DOJHS protocols?
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And do you know if those were followed, they should
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follow CCHS protocols.
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And again we'll include that information.
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In the report. Do you know how many were reimbursed
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for travel?
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As I sit here, I don't recall the number, but
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I would recall her. You won't tell us well, and
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if I did know it, I wouldn't be in a
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position to tell you because we still have to go.
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Through We're four years into this. Just start. I mean,
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you're supposed to be the.
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Organization that goes and gets these answers when the FBI
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and the DOJ stonewall Congress.
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But I feel like, you know, we're four years into this.
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We're not even going to get this information you're telling
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us now before the election and maybe not even before
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the next inauguration. How would we make any corrections or
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without that information?
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Welcome with me, Marie and Mara, Hello, ladies, how are
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you hell? It's nice, Thank you, Thank you both for
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being with me.
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And you know that was just absolutely egregious.
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Every time I see that clip, it just it just
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it really irritates me that we're four years in and
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they still will not release information.
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But that's what we have come to expect. And I
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just want to thank you.
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Both for coming on and sharing what has happened to
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your loved ones. Marie, I want to start with you
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because your son went to DC as a citizen journalist
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for Stop Hate dot Com and it's being charged with
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one count of misdemeanor trespassing.
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Would you please share with us about your son.
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Yes, actually was charged with the finany charge fifteen twelve
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as well as for misdemeanors.
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Of the fifteen twelve charge was actually added.
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Three weeks after was in jail, and I think they
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were just trying us crimbling to find something to really
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hammer people with.
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But anyway, he took a peagremond to one.
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Busy miner and that's what happened to him.
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Yeah, he works for Stuffy, so he was there.
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To record history wow, and he went into the Capitol.
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I actually have a picture and I'd like to show
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that if we could.
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And the reason I want people to see this is
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you can see where the red arrow.
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Is, but I want everybody to notice there.
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Is a corned off area of police officers there.
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And the reason why it's so important to.
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Me, Marie, is because I actually interviewed a lawyer who
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had two defendants and they went into the same entrance
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and they were being charged with, you know, for different
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misdemeanor charges.
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And the concern is, as.
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The lawyer was speaking to me, had said, you notice
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they weren't free walking through the capitol. They went around
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in a circle. You could just kind of see it
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in the picture. They're courted off there. They weren't going anywhere.
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They went around in a circle. The officer said, no,
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you have to leave it.
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And they were peaceful.
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There wasn't breaking a glass, there wasn't throwing a flagpoles,
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there wasn't anything that would be considered a mob mentality.
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So your son, is he still being charged right now?
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Does he have to do more time or he's already
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completed his sentence?
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Yes, I would actually out very fast that my son
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before he entered that door past a large number of
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police that were just set standing there and not preventing
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anyone from entering it.
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Yes, so he's finished.
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With this sentence, except he's still unquote about the judge
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wanted to add software to monitor his action, his interaction
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in his computer and his phone.
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So he went to quote for that.
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He appealed it.
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He only appealed first, and then they just came back
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and decided. He didn't care the appeal was, you know,
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against him. He just decided, yes, he wanted to monitor
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my son, so.
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He wanted to monitor both his computer and his phone.
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What what are they looking for?
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Misinformation? Disinformation as they would say it, I mean, what
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what would be the purpose?
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Yes, absolutely, it's what they call disinformation, because all the
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judges in Washington, d C. Said that the addiction was
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not stolen, that there was nothing improper then, and they
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want all the jestic stars to apologize for having thoughts,
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even the thought of that the election was still on.
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So most of the time they get more time.
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Because they don't apologize, because they don't want to apologize.
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And I don't blame them.
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You know, everybody by now knows that the action was
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still on it.
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Yeah, And here's the thing, you know, punishing somebody, persecuting.
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Somebody for thought crime, that's.
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Nineteen eighty four that's Orrellian type of stuff.
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I mean, that is just egregious.
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I mean, I don't understand he's a journalist, so are
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what are they.
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Doing with that?
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I mean, are they making him go through and submit
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his computer, submit his phone like on a daily basis.
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Well, we know exactly how they wouldn't mind ture him.
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That's why East court about that.
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So I think actually it's probably better if we don't
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talk too much about that.
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But anyway, yeah, so you know this really changed my life.
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I was not an advocate for any political stuff.
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I mean I was.
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I immigrated from Friends in eighty one, I had.
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Fat kids, living nobod life, and I vote it and
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all those things. But we're not really an activist in
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any way, shape or form. But you know, I mean,
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the abil ready at our house and they woke up a.
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Bear, Mama Bear is awake, and Mama.