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It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and
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let's speak intention.
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Hello and welcome to Intentional. I am your host, Mick Meal.
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It is good to be with you today. I really
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hope that you are blessed beyond belief wherever you are.
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And thanks for dropping in and spending a little time
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and your support. Now, before we get started, there is
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something very important that I need to touch base with
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you on. Hey, I want to be real serious with you.
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the cat or wall. Are you aware of what is
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being brought into our K through twelve schools under the
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disguise of health education. This is concerning school based healthcare
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centers and the expansion of mental health services at the
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courtesy of the World Health Organization UNESCO, the Center for
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Disease Control, our government, a few other entities. They all
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throw it in there. Now that raises many questions for me,
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and I know I'm not the only one who's interested
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in the who, what, where? Whyan howls regarding the scope
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an extent of care, the consent for treatment, the credentialing
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that goes into it. What about parental rights? Who is
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doing what to your child? When all of a child's
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healthcare needs, including mental health, is being placed in your
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K through twelve schoolhouse? Just a one stop shop. There
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you go, education, healthcare, nutrition, get it all right there. Now,
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did you know that when Barack Obama pushed out the
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patient centered medical home model in the Affordable Care Act,
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school based health centers began to be known as medical
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homes for children. It's in the medical literature. It's all
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through it, and words like continuous and comprehensive and coordinated
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care for infants, children and adolescents just used right in there. Now,
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this is a paradigm shift for school based health care
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and mental health services. We got to be clear eyed
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about this, folks. I mean, we have to have wisdom
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and discernment about it, because they are going to be
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providing services such as primary health care for your children,
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reproductive counseling for your children, mental health counseling, dental care vision.
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It just goes on and on and on, and these
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are all being provided in these new medical homes. So
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the implications to me are pretty apparent. You're going to
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move all your children's primary care right into the school environment. Now.
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I'm not sure who saw this, but the KOSU dot
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org reported that two state agencies in Oklahoma, the Oklahoma
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Healthcare Authority and the Oklahoma State Department of Education has
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outlined a plan to expand Medicaid billable services in school
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These two entities that are the Healthcare Authority and the
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State Department of Education have come together and they're proposing
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a state plan amendment. It is over eight thousand pages long.
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We just showed parts of it, and it includes language
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like family planning, rehabilitative and behavioral health, medical and surgical services,
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and other practitioner services. And as I was scrolling through,
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I saw genetic counseling and pharmacy services. So this is
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really raising my eyebrows, and I hope it does for
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you too, because this is a great concern. So here's
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the elephant in the room right now. The primary care
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providers will become replaced with administrators and school based healthcare
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center doctors who will then replace parents as the medical
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decision maker for their own children. Now you're going to say, Mick,
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that's excessive. But the School Based Health Alliance, which is
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the national voice for the school based healthcare, is promoting
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and supporting the expansion of school based health centers across
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the country, and they are recommending that a single, one
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parental consent form with the registration paperwork at the beginning
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of the school year be done now. Signing that form
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would allow any doctor working in the clinic to make
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a health care decision for your child. So I really
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feel like the trojan horse is being wheeled through the
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door and the trap door is about to open. So
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let's bring in our guest for today and talk about
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this with Deborah Campbell. She has worked for the Office
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of Civil Rights at the Department of Education. She was
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a litigating paralegal for special education and founder of the
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grassroots organization Love My Liberties. Based in Stevens County, Oklahoma.
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Deborah is diligently working on resolutions and legislative processes to
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prohibit the expansion of Oklahoma k through twelve school based
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services and health centers. She has also been on My
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show before. She has discussed about comprehensive sexual education in
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the curriculums and it's all being done under the Sky's
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health education. So welcome with me, Deborah Campbell. Hello, Deborah, Hi.
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It's great seeing you.
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Goodness to you too for coming on, because there's a
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lot to unpack here and it seems like, at least
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in the state of Oklahoma, this is something that is
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going into effect in our schools in August of this year.
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And this is a really great concern because these patients
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centered medical homes for children that that's what Obama labeled
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them as, are being created in the schools, and I
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mean they're either being created within the schools or they're
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being as a created facility next to the school or
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very close to the school. So that's a big concern.
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But before we jump in, I want to kind of
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backtrack a little bit here, and I want you to
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share with the audience just a little bit about your
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background and how the prohibition of this expansion of K
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through twelve, the school based services and the mental health
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services in Oklahoma has become your passion.
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Well, I accidentally got into it, as you mentioned before,
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I was on your show talking about comprehensive sex ad
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and my legal research. It was like a rabbit hole
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as I'm doing legal research. Then I just started questioning, well,
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there has to be more to this.
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It's not just you know, comprehensive sex ad.
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And so I happened upon information about what was going
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on in the Liberal States and they were talking about
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school based health clinics or school based health communities, that
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they go buy various names, and then the light bulb
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went off. I saw that from twenty eighteen to twenty two,
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I saw where the previous superintendent, Joey hoffmeiservice laying the foundation.
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So they were bringing it in by pieces in codifying,
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and it was done very quietly. And during this time
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I discovered that there were ten public schools that were
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involved in a palette program for school based health clinics.
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And so anyway, that's how I got into it was
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that gotcha?
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Gotcha? Well, I'm glad that somebody's out there digging into
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this because deb I think it needs a larger voice,
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a bigger megaphone. I'm not sure if people really understand
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what this is all about and the impacts of it.
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But according to the School Based Health Center Toolkit it
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now that was designed to assist those who are interested
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in forming a school based health center or a new
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school based health facility. That was sort of put together
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for Oklahoma, and I think it came from another state.
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They were kind of using it as a template. But
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as I was reading it, it says right in there
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that the school based health centers integrate the essential components
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of the primary care, medical home, in their delivery of services,
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and at its core, the ideal school based health center
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model has many key attributes of a patient centered primary
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care system for children, adolescents and their families. And then
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they go on to list all these services. DEB, Vaccines
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are in their HIV and AID screening and management is
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in their pregnancy related care, Reproductive counseling is in there.
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Of course, they've got the mental health and behavioral health,
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but they've also got what they're calling social emotional learning support,
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substance abuse interventions, dental and envision care. So Deb, this
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is like all encompassing and it reads this thousand pages
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that they have, Actually it's more than a thousand pages.
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It looks like you're building like a freestanding hospital when
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you read through it. So this brings up a lot
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of questions for me, parental rights, informed consent, what are
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their credentials? And Deb, I know that the devil's always
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in the details. So there's going to be some good,
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there's going to be some bad, there's going to be
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some ugly. And what I want to know is if
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you can kind of lay out for our audience, parents,
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concerned citizen, what they need to be a aware of
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what all this means for them and their children.
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Well, the parents will no longer be the child's advocate,
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and the question that comes to my mind is how
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is that going to impact a child emotionally and mentally
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when they realize that their parents are no longer their advocates.
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That comes to mind. The other thing is.
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This in Oklahoma, for them to expand school based services,
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they have no legal authority to do that because school
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based services falls under the purview of the federal law
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IDEA which is specific to children with special needs or
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if they are special education, if they qualify for special education,
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because you can have a disability and not have any
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learning dismill So, but if you qualify under I d
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A as a special education student and you need services,
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then you can receive those. But school based services is
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for educationally necessary services, not medical services. And so when
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they say expand, they're expanding this beyond the I e P.
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And then the other problem is people don't understand that
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an i e P is defined defined under I d
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A as specially designed instruction, so it is not it's
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not a prescription. The schools are not required to provide medical.
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You know, services to the children. And they also go
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on to say that the i EPs you can't put
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medical needs in it. That they say you can put.
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Whatever the medical services are, you can put them in
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an IP or another document and attach it to the IP.
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I don't know if that makes sense to you.
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So does that mean that every child then would have
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an I E P Or are are you saying that
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this won't be for every child? How are they going
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to get away? How are they going to get around that?
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Because it makes it look like they're doing it for
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every child in the school.
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Well, the toolkit that you spoke about, if you go
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in there, it actually says that the IEP is will
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be a prescription authority. So they're going to use an
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IP as a prescription. And again, where's the illegal authority.
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For all this?
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Yeah, to do that?
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You know, this is my point is we already have
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in Oklahoma, we have pre medicaid programs which we cannot
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financially sustain. We have Oklahoma school based Medicaid, which was
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specifically for.
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For UH special education children.
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So in other words, if the IDA funding does not
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cover the balance, you know, the balance of a bill
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for that child, then the Oklahoma school based Medicaid money
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would pick up, you know, the outstanding balance. And then
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you've got Sooner Care, which is for low income families
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that qualify. Then you have and as of April of
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this year, you have Sooner Select where they expanded and
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put in dental envision and those things that weren't covered
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under Sooner Care. So if we've got these programs in place,
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then why are we creating these clinics that you know,
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it doesn't make sense, we can't sustain it. And then
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in twenty six the federal grants to implement these programs expire,
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and it's going to put the financial burden.
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On to the state and the communities.
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So yeah, when you read in that toolkit, when you
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read any materials put out by the Oklahoma Healthcare Authority OSDE,
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which is the Oklahoma State Department of ED or any
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other proponents for.
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This stuff, they focus on the buy in of the parents,
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the teachers, in the community.
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And when I looked up the definition of community, they're
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talking about that the businesses, the hospitals, medical communities that
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they have they would have to help sustain it financially.
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So then Senator Buller brought to my attention that the
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schools will become recruiters for medicaid.
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So wow.
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And there's a page in that toolkit where it instructs
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the schools to hold town halls or have a family knight,
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some set up meetings with parents and explain to them
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what medicaid has to offer.
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And like put every child on Medicaid.
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If they qualify.
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So right now, right now, you have to remember, they're