March 19, 2025

Deportation

Deportation

Mahmoud Khalil is the center of a growing controversy at Columbia University, abusing the privilege of living in this country and using his platform at Columbia University to promote anti-Semitic rhetoric and glorify terrorism. This disturbing trend...

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Season 1

Mahmoud Khalil is the center of a growing controversy at Columbia University, abusing the privilege of living in this country and using his platform at Columbia University to promote anti-Semitic rhetoric and glorify terrorism. This disturbing trend has raised growing calls for deportation when deemed necessary to protect our nation from being harmed by such fanatics.

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let's speak intentional.

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and your support. Now, are you ready, because it is

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time for us to stand up, speak out, get involved,

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and let's be intentional. So I've said this before, I'm

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going to say it again that college campuses have become

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terrorist training camps. They are now the hotspot destination if

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you want your child to become a Marxist who learns

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how to riot and incite violence against all Americas, but

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particularly Jews. When I went to college, it was to

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be educated and prepared to be a nurse now they

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are the breeding grounds of anti Semitism, hate, brutality, and lawlessness.

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Case in point, Mackmud Khalil. His court documents describe him

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as a Palestinian who was born and raised in a

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refugee camp in Syria and holds Algerian citizenship. He entered

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the United States on a student visa in or around

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December of twenty twenty two, and married a US citizen

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in November of twenty twenty three. Khalil served as a

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spokesperson for Columbia United Apartheid divest, a group that, per

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the New York Post, vows to escalate its tactics until

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the Empire crumbles, sympathizes with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah,

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and seeks the total in eradication of Western civilization. This

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group has made public statements such as we support liberation

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by any means necessary, including armed resistance, and long live

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into Faughta. Khalil formed an encampment on Columbia's Manhattan campus

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and staged an occupation of Hamilton Hall, which is the

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university's administrative building, where the protesters broke down doors and

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they damaged and destroyed property and mistreated public safety. Officers

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and the maintenance staff. The university also said that the

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disruptions on campus have created a threatening environment for many

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of our Jewish students and faculty. Khalil staged a protest

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as well at the Milstein Library at Bernard College. According

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to the Post, that protest featured a violent propaganda flyer

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that came directly from Hamas media office and included a

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pamphlet that was entitled our narrative Operation al Aksla Blood,

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which I guess is a justification for October seventh, twenty

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twenty three and its attack. Now it's time to deport.

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So today we have a special guest with us. His

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name is Rabbi Daniel Schanbook and he is author of

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The Victor Frunkel and The Psychology of the Soul, a

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Guide to finding meaning and emotional wellness. He maintains a

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private practice in marriage and family therapy and resides in

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Crown Heights, New York with his wife and children. He

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is going to be discussing this very important topic with

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us today, but first let's hear from some of our

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nation's leading voices on this subject.

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Two distinct although they're overlapping First Amendment right, there's the

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constitutional right of a non citizen Khalil to speak.

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That's a very limited right.

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He can speak, he can speak from outside the country,

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he can do it by zoom. But does he ever

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right to speak in the United States? And the answer

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to that is probably no. He certainly has no constitutional right.

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Does he have a statutory right? Harder question. But then

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the next question is do we not me and you

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because we don't want to hear Khalil speak? But do

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the radical anti Semitic students, including some Jewish anti Semis

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of which there are plenty.

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But do the.

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Radical anti American, anti Jewish students, anti Semitic students, anti

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Israel students.

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Do they they're citizens? Did they ever right to hear him?

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Well?

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Again, they ever right to hear him? They can hear

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him on zoom? Do they have a right to hear

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him personally speak at Columbia? So those are interrelated but

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somewhat separate rights. His right minimal because he's not a citizen.

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Their rights more maximal because they are citizens. And the

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court will have to delineate those rights and decide how

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to balance the rights of the Jewish students who are

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victimized by Khalil let's remember Khalil as a villain. I

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mean he has interfered with the rights of Jewish students

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to express their face speed rights by participating in demonstrations

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that have intimidated students. Students today don't wear Stars of David.

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I don't think they wear these ribbons which I do. Uh,

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And and they don't wear kipa, the.

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Yamaka, the head covering that Orthodox Joes wear, and then

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more and more by the way, conservative and even even

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secular Jews wear in order to show support or being Jewish.

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They don't want to be ashamed of their being Jewish.

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But Khalil was.

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Part of a process of intimidating Jews and making them

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frightened and keeping them home. And some of them have

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brought lawsuits as the result of Khalil and his followers,

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and he was one of the leaders. So the question

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is is he guilty of conspiracy? Is he guilty of

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actual acts of intimidation.

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Government has a burden to demonstrate that.

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It's not a burden of proof beyond reasonable dout because

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it's not a criminal case. They have to show it

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by I think it's clear and convincing evidence.

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If you want to deport a.

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Green card holder by a lower standard than proof beyond

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reasonable doubt. But still the burden of proof is on

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the prosecution. He is still he's presumed. He's not presumed

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innocent because it's not a criminal case, but he's presumed

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non deportable because the burden of proof is on those

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who would in fact support him.

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When you come to the United States as a visitor,

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which is what avisa is, which is how this individual

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entered this country on visa. Okay, you are here as

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a visitor. We can deny you that visa. We can

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deny you that if you tell us when you apply. Hi,

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I'm trying to get into the United States on a

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student visa. I am a big supporter of Hamas, a murderous,

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barbaric group that kidnaps children, that rapes teenage girls, that

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takes hostages, that allows them to die in captivity, that

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returns more bodies than live hostages. If you tell us

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that you are in favor of a group like this,

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and if you tell us when you apply for your visa,

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and by the way, I intend to come to your

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country as a student, and rile up all kinds of

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anti Jewish student, anti Semitic activities. I intend to shut

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down your universities. If you told us all these things

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when you applied for a visa, we would deny your visa.

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I hope we would.

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If you actually end up doing that, once you're in

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this country on such a visa, we will revoke it.

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And if you end up having a green card, not citizenship,

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but a green card as a result of that visa

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while you're here in those activities, we're going to kick

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you out. It's as simple as that. This is not

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about free speech. This is about people that don't have

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a right to be in the United States. To begin with,

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no one has a right to a student visa. No

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one has a right to a green card. By the way,

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so when you apply for student visa or any visa

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that entered the United States, we have a right to

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deny you for virtually any reason. But I think being

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a supporter of Hamas and coming into our universities and

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turning them upside down, and being complicit and what are

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clearly crimes of vandalization, complicit in shutting down learning institutions.

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There are kids at these schools that can't go to class.

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You pay all this money to these high price schools

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that are supposed to be of a great esteem, and

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you can't even go to class. You're afraid to go

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to class because these lunatics are running around with covers

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on their face, streaming terrifying things. If you told us

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that's what you intended to do when you came to America,

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we would have never let you in. And if you

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do it once you get in, we're going to revoke

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it and kick you out.

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Trump Ice has arrested a Palestinian activist who led anti

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Israel pro Hamask protests on Columbia's campus. He has a

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green card. Can you deport a legal immigrant? Absolutely we can.

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I mean, did he buy the terms of his visa

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that he violate the terms of his residency here, you know,

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committing crimes, you know, attacking Israeli students, locking down billings,

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disjoining property. Absolutely, any resident, any who commits a crime

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is always more for deportation. And that's just one out

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of many. We're going to send a strong message saying

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anybody here on a foreign visa that you know, you're

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given a great right that comes to the greatest country

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and Earth to study in our colleges. But when you

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come to study, you got to obey the laws of

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this country. You've got to obey the requirements of that

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visa to be lawful while you're here. So it's a

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great privilege to study this country. But when we give

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you that right to study this country, don't violate our laws.

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Wow.

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Well, welcome with me, Rabbi Daniel Schoenbuck. Hello, sir, thank

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you so much for coming on the show today.

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How are you beat? Great to be here.

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Well, thank you so much and I appreciate it. Rabbi,

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I would like to kind of start out just kind

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of talking about the fact that there's been a lot

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of hostility and discrimination towards the Jewish people. Unfortunately, as

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you well known, that has been going on for decades

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and centuries. Prejudice against and hatred of the Jews in

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the United States has really been on the rise in

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the last several years, and we are at really surpassing

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a dangerous point, especially on our college campuses. As a

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licensed psychotherapist, a rabbi, and somebody who I see has

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the pulse on the Jewish community, Sir, what are you seeing, hearing,

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and feeling from the people and the public.

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Well, since October seventh, I would say none of us

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are feeling safe anymore in places which were safety zones

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for the Jewish community and Jewish individuals. I mean, my

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father went to Columbia University in the nineteen fifties graduate

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in chemistry, and that was a safe place for almost

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anybody in this country. It's the Crown one of the

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Crown Jewels of the United States. It's an Ivy League institution.

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Ivy League institutions since October seventh have been revealed to

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be bastions of left wing and Islamic fascism, anti Semitism

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against our communities, and they're no longer safe for our children.

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But you know something, you were talking about this before.

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They haven't been safe for years. I think on October seventh,

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specifically October eighth, where even before Israel started responding to Thamas,

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they were glorifying the martyrs over the Oxa flood, as

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they called it. The Oxa flood is the Western Wall,

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is the Holy Temple that we had for over eight

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hundred years. They were trying to destroy all Jews in Israel,

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and their intended aim is to destroy all Jews around

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the world and to wipe out Judeo Christian civilization. Don't

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to take me for my words. Just read the Hamas Charter.

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That's what they say explicitly.

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Wow. Wow, And thank you for explaining that. I saw that,

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and so I'm very grateful that you brought that up

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and to our attention. I just noticed on X today

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that Laura Lomer, she's an independent journalist, she posted that

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outside the White House today there were Muslims. This was

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last night. They were waving Hama's flags. They were performing there.

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They're called a prayer on their mats. They were shouting

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out a la Akbar. So we're a nation that has

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seen what Islamic terrorists and extremists did on nine to eleven.

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We saw how Biden and Harris really opened up the

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border too many national terrorist threats and bad actors, and

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we know there are actual active terrorist cells in our country.

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I mean, sir, this seems to be insanity to me.

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I don't know that we would go this far, but

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I don't want to become an Islamic state. I mean,

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God forbid if this is allowed to continue. Am I right?

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I think he got the bigger point. We have to

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look at this from a macro perspective. If you look

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at what's happened in Europe over the last forty years.

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France today, the streets of Spain, and so I mean

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there's been an Islamic wave in these countries. The people

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that come there are coming from countries which are highly radicalized.

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liberation of all of Israel, Hisbala and Lebanon. The jutis

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that we see firing on American vessels and the Americans

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responded a few days ago. We're seeing an Islamic revolution

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around the world. And it's used to say it's coming

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to a campus near you. It's already here right now.

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And I don't believe. And I've been asked a lot

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of questions about this, what happens next. It just gets

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worse here. Even if there is a ceasefire in the

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Middle East, they're going to continue because their goal is

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not the Middle East. Keep that in mind. The goal.

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The goal is world domination of Islam, and they want

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to spread Shria law. I just went to a convention

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in Dallas a few weeks ago Christian broadcasters, and I

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had the chance to meet with Christians from Lebanon, Christians

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from Iran. They told me when they were growing up,

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they go to school every morning and after they said

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their morning prayers, they had to they were forced to

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say death to Israel, death to America, death to the Jews.

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the great Satan. Israel is a small Satan. And that's

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the type of ideology that's fueling this hatred and unfortunately

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we're seeing it for the first time starting on October seventh,

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but it's been brewing for many years. And these campuses

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you mentioned before, I would never send my kids to

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them anymore. They're not safe places, the values they're learning,

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the amount of antisemitism on campus. Unfortunately, they're feeling a

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whole new generation of hateful leaders. And so what the

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Trump administration just did is fantastic. They're finally taking a

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stand against us, and they're going to try to use

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all our democratic institutions, which are built up for two

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hundred and fifty years in this country, which is great

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of the most wonderful, incredible society in human history in

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the United States of America. They're going to try to

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use all these things against us today and do exactly

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what they did to Europe the United States right now.

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So maybe we've learned something positive from what just happened.

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Is we have to fight back now absolutely.

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You know, Rabbi, the situation that is surrounding Mahmoud Khalil,

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his terrorist ties and the deportation, I see it as

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like this ultra important topic and discussion. I believe it's

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going to go to the Supreme Court. I think it

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will bring out decisions regarding rights to deep ortation, and

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of course the right to free speech will be brought

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into this. But you wrote an article on your website,

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the Mental Health First Initiative, and the title of the

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article is a green card is not a green light

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for hatred? Why mach Mud Khalil should be deported? Sir?

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Tell us about why you say deportation is the right response.

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talking about somebody who's inciting towards violence. If you come

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and use this incredible country with all our resources and

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wealth and use it to destroy our people, I can't

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think of a more important reason than to end your visa.

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You know, it's something which that Marco Rubio just said

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very clearly, if you break the laws, you have to go.

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And well, we witnessed an American society the last twenty years,

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specifically since covid is. We are not enforcing our laws anymore.

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We're not enforcing our laws and immigration till Donald Trump

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took over, we're not enforcing their laws on what's happening

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to green cards today. And we're all in danger. The

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enemy is all of us. They are going against all

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of us right now, not just the little State of

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Israel and the Jewish community, but for all Jews and Christians.

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And again they state this in the Hamas Charter. Their

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goal is to eliminate today of Christian civilization and Maku

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Khalil is just one part of the greater picture.

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Absolutely. We have an interaction from one of our guests

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who says, why is he here? And so I believe

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they're asking about Khalilckmod Khalil, why is he here?

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Thank you was studying the form of political science at

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the Columbia University. That was his stated intent, but now

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we know is actual intent is to propagandie for Hamas.

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And don't be fooled, whether it's USA, I d people

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recipients from some of those programs people that have brought

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over here. The goal is to destroy Western civilization, and

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they're doing exactly what they've been saying. You know, the

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problem is we're not listening to what they're saying. When

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somebody tells you they want to destroy you, you better

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take them more seriously. Now we're seeing what they've been

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talking about for years actually happening to us.

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Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent. You know, right after October seventh,

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I think it was like October thirteenth, there was the

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leader of Hamas I believe it was, who called for

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the day of Jihad. Do you think this is a

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continuation of that?

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One hundred percent exactly. Go back and their listeners and

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your viewers should just google the Hamas Charter and read

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all the articles of Kamas Charter. They lay out their

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intended goals for the Western civilization. They talk about jihon,

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They talked about the Islamo fascist revolution taking over the world.

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They talked about spreading the laws, Islamic laws of these countries.

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That's exactly what they want. You know, it's already happening

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in England. In England, many of these laws are already

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being allowed under the courts in England. They want the

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same thing for the United States. They're not going to

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stop till they get world domination. They used to talk

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about the two state solution in Israel. They want a

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one state solution. They want the Islamic state to be

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everywhere right now.

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don't remember what part in England they were, but they

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they said they can remember when they were young, when

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they were very little, you know, it wasn't this way.

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But now they have the five times called to prayer.

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You know, they have the loud speakers it and it comes,

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you know, over the loud speakers. You know, it's it's

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like you're, you know, there in an Islamic state. So yeah,

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that's we don't want that here in America. But that's

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a scary that's a scary thought, you know that we're

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just maybe as stones throw away hopefully, I mean, you know,

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thank god we have President Trump right now in his administration.

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I tell you, on the left and the mainstream media,

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they've turned the entire discussion into free speech, which I

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would predict they would do anyway, this is not about

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free speech. This is about incitement to violence. So I

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really suggest that your listeners, call up your senators, call

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up your congress people, write a letter to Donald Trump.

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They listen. The government does listen to people when they're citizens.

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Speak up. They want our votes, and go out there

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and support our government for doing the right thing. And

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we're going to be safe for offware in the future.

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Absolutely, Rabbi. I want to show you a short clip

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of Jessica Tarloff. She's a leftist political strategist, and i'd

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like to your response, maybe your insights and thoughts as

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her and her guests are opening on mister Khalil.

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We're effectively in a full dictatorship where speech is now chilled.

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The one that kind of tested my resolve around this

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is Mahmud Khalil's arrest. A legal argument for deporting him

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is that when you're here on a green card, you

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are not supposed to promote or endorse terrorist activities.

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I really wish that the administration would go out there

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and find the law that he violated. Eli Lake, someone

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who really hates Mahmud Khalil, came out and said, as well,

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you need some law that the guy broke in order

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to take away a green card, which is basically SACRICANCT.

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As much as I would like to see bad things

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happen to this individual, because I think he's created incredible

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descent and that he's wrong and that he's inciting violence,

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he hasn't really broken any laws and this is just

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political speech and he's getting disappeared and deported. You know

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who's next? And what qualifies this political speech that is

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worthy of deportation?

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Uh, I'm sorry. First, I think it's hypocritical that she

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is discussing dictatorship and removing a free speech when the

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man and woman that she voted for and covered for,

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Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, were colluding with tech companies

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to silence Americans, and they were actively hunting down their

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political enemies, putting them in prison. Parents and people praying

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at abortion clinics, and people who were standing and just

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praying outside the Capitol on j six. But I'm sorry, Rabbi,

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I digress. Are these people just misguided? Are they entrapped

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in some sort of Marx theory of revolutionary terrorism? I mean,

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what in the world?

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Yes, yes, and yes, I mean the hypocrisy was just ridiculous.

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I mean, I know, to tarlo Is, she sees the

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left wing spokesman on Fox News. But I'm going to

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tell you something. The apocrisy is incredible. Everybody knows with

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their own eyes over the last last year and a half,

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the amount of violence we saw on campuses. These weren't

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people sitting there quietly saying, you know, with little posters

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and with little flowers walking up to people. These were

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people that were beating people up, breaking into campuses. Everybody

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saw what happen on campus. So I'm not sure these

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people they are living in a left wing cocuon a

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socialist cocoon. They're burying themselves unfortunately. But listen, watch all

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the violence we've been witnessing on campuses. People have been

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intimidating people can't get to their classes, Jews being spat upon,

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Jews being physically assaulted on campuses, Jews hiding in libraries

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because they can't leave the campus. I mean, this is

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about violent revolution on campus, nothing to do with free speech.

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And I knew the left would turn it into this,

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but there are one hundred percent wrong. That's why I'm

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so thankful Donald Trump won and we have spokespeople and

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leaders like Marco Rubert are actually doing something about it.

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I mean, he came from a communist society, Mark Rubio.

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He knows how dangerous these people are. His family came

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from Cuba, and the only one way to deal with

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this is clarity and strength. That's what we're gonna have

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to do to survive this.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, and I want to talk a little bit more

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about that. But I don't know if you saw this, Serve,

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but apparently supporting acts of terrorism is profitable because Chuffed

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crowd funding Academy has now raised over five hundred thousand

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dollars for Mackmood Khalil. And I heard that, well, actually

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I saw the post, but I guess he's sending to one.

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I think he has like seventeen lawyers. I don't know,

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that's what I heard, but he's sending these letters and apparently,

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according to him, he's a political prisoner, and you know,

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he's being targeted. I don't see this as a targeting.

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I think what he did was acts of terrorism. But

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I don't know if he saw that or not.

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I haven't seen it yet. But what about all the

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innocent victims on campus? What about the Jewish students. It's

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not about the Jewish students. It's all students. It's Jews,

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it's Christians. People don't even associate with faith. They don't

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have freedom of movement on certain campuses. They can't get

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into their libraries. This is not about freedom of speech.

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This is about the exact opposite. This is about an

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incitement to Vaughan. So I remember Ronald Reagan. I grew up

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listening to his sayings when I was a kid, a teenager.

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He said, clarity is strength. And just like Ronald Reagan

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saw the danger of the Soviet Union of communism to

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the world, and he fought it into the nineteen eighties,

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we have to now fight the battle against Islama fascism,

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because not only is it conceptually a threat to us,

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it's literally a threat destroying the institutions of the United States,

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institutions like Columbia, Harvard and MIT. It's already happening. If

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we don't stand up and point out the incitement, unfortunately,

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lose will go right to what we're seeing in Europe today.

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Yeah, and you had spoke about some of the some

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of the effects. But but Rabbi, what happens if we

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we do not deport. I mean, we see that they're

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judge shopping. They're using these activist judges to to block

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and say no, you got to apply these people back,

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these pardoned criminals. And and now I you know they

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I mean, I think on on mister Khalil. You know

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they they don't want to try them in Louisiana. They

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want to move it to New Jersey. They want to

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try and get them to a more progressive, left weaning

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left leaning state. So what what happens if we do

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not deport? And and besides calling our senators, what what

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would be that call to action for us?

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Yeah? And the call to action is larity people like myself.

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That's what I'm here today to talk about that. And

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you got to communicate those with people that you know

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in your churches and case in your synagogues. We have

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to take united stand against what we're facing. And I

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got to tell you something. The left and these Islama

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fascists are going to use this. They're going to milk it,

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they're going to fundraise from it. They're going to make

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Khalil they're a poster child right now, and they're definitely

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going to turn into an issue of freedom of speech,

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which is something we all really want. We have to

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be unequivocal. This is not about freedom of speech. There's

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no freedom to incite violence in a society, especially from

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somebody who's not an American citizen. This is where we

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got to draw the line in the sand right now.

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If we can't fight him, the floodgates are opened, and

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what we saw on October seventh, October eight and onwards

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will just continue to get worse and worse. I mean,

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even during the ceasefire, people of people have been demonstrating.

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I'm not talking about what just happened Israel the last

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few days, last few months as a ceasefire. There have

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been demonstrations during the ceasefire in the streets of New

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York in Jewish communities that have these ultra Orthodox smunities

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have nothing to do with Israel. There are people riding

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on the streets of Barra Park just about a month

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ago in New York City long for death to America

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and death to Israel. This has nothing to do with

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the state of Israel. This has to do with the

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war on Judeo Christian civilization. They're just using Israel at

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this moment, but their plan is much bigger and Khalil

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is another pin that overall picture.

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Sure, I want to give the time to you. I'd

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like for you to tell us anything that you'd like

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us to know, and I'd like you to touch on

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your book for us, Victor Frankel and the Psychology of

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the Soul, A Guide to Fining Meaning and Emotional Wellness.

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I love that title. I think we actually have a

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picture there we go of the book. Thank you, Rebel,

495
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She's wonderful. We love our producer. So, sir, if you

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tell us about your book, and you know, tell us

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about anything that you'd like us to know, we are

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all yours.

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Yeah. Well, I'm a a religious spiritual psychology and you

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talked about what's happening on campus is today. I've been

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seeing that the explosive rates in depression, anxiety, post traumatic stress,

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and so on are destroying our society and in the

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world of psychology, which I trained in, I believe that

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most psychologists are not very effective or helpful in changing

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what's going on in society. And the reason is that

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more left wing liberal psychology all focuses on the self.

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It's all about me, self fulfillment, the ego, self esteem,

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and the more we propagate these ideas, the worse we're

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getting in society today. Victor Frank, who I wrote about

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in my book Victor Frankel on the Psychology of the Soul,

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was a very famous Holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz. And

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he believes, unlike Sigmund Freud, who said that human beings

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have this id, this animal impulse, just seeking out pleasure

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and desire, man ultimately seeks out something called meaning. And

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he said the way he survived Auschwitz in the darkest

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of his hours was to try to fulfill a meaning

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even within Auschwitz. And he took this incredible message and

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he wrote this book which millions of people read many

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years ago, called The Search Man Search for Meaning. And

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I believe the answer for psychology happens when I work

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with my clients. I don't just focus on themselves. I

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focus on helping them find values and meaningful experiences, and

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I see their depression gets better, anxiety goes down, less

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suicidal ideology, and it all happens because I'm focusing on

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things beyond themselves. So my new book Victor Frank in

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Psychology the Soul updates his message from the concentration camps

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at Ausfitz brings it to today's times and has an

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inspirational message for people that read it. They can change

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their lives when they start focusing on things beyond themselves.

530
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Yeah, I love that. I absolutely love that. Can you

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give us a little sneak peek into the book? I

532
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know people can get it at Amazon.

533
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Well.

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I have in my book a description of how to

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focus on more meaning in your lives, and so I

536
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offer two different menus, different pages of menus. One page

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is about values. I want people to think about what

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are their core values every single day. Maybe it's kindness,

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Maybe it's truthfulness. Maybe it's being courageous in life, or creativity,

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or kindness or citizenship. I want you to pick three values.

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And in my book, I have a thirty day logo

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therapy or therapy and meaning workbook. I had people fill

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out did you fulfill your values today? Or what stopped

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you fulfilling your values today? I also have my clients

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in the book pick three meaningful experiences they haven't had yet.

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That's what Victor Frankel talked about, finding meaningful things to accomplish,

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meaningful things to experience. And I was watching with my

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daughter a few nights ago all about the Grand Canyon.

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I mean, how you've been to the Grand Canyon yet

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you know, pick something in the world that's beautiful, nature, culture, music,

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Go ahead and experience out in your life more profound.

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It may be helping somebody's a meaningful experience, caring for somebody.

553
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So I have people in the book pick from those

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meaningful things and their values and journal about it over

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thirty days. And my belief is that if you focus

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on your values and finding meaningful things to do three days,

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you will see a reduction in depression, reduction anxiety. You're

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going to feel better. People that live with me feel

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better and actually live longer statistically. So it's all happening

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when we focus on things beyond ourselves. Just to summarize

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this idea, we're talked to ask this question, what do

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I need? That's not the question. The question is what

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am I needed for? And when you begin to answer

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that question, your whole life begins to change. And that's

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what I'm promoting in my book. Victor Franklin on the

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Psychologist soul Wow.

567
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I love that, sir. We are scrolling your website and

568
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all of that, but if you want to tell us

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about your website or anything that you have coming up,

570
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speaking engagements, any of that. We would love to hear it.

571
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Well, we have. I have a website called the Mental

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Health First Initiative. It's easy to get there. Just you

573
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can google a Heal with Meaning dot com Heal with Meaning.

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People can find out about me my blog post. I

575
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have many videos over many years that I brought to

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that site that I've been talking about Victor Frankel Finding meaning.

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I mean, I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, so

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I talk a lot about marriages. Actually finding meaning in

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your marriage as well is usually very helpful. I talk

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about depression, anxiety, post traumatic stress. I'm actually a trauma expert.

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I help people overcome like the worst horrific traumas in

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their lives, and most of that I do through something

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called e MDR, which is an eye movement therapy. But

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then I move my clients into the psychology of Victor

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Frankel and I talk about my websites. I have training programs,

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so people should join me at Heal with Meaning, and

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I always answer questions. I'm happy to answer phone calls

588
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and emails as well.

589
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Wow, thank you so much, sir, it has been amazing

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to speak with you, Rabbi shaw Book, Sean excuse me,

591
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.679
Sean Buck, excuse me about that. Thank you so much

592
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for coming on. It has been an amazing conversation. We'd

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love to catch up with you again and speak more

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about this topic and other things, especially about the finding

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of you know, finding meaning and emotional wellness. Really would

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love to talk to you more about that. So thank

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you so much for coming on today. Everyone, Thank you

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for being with us, Thank you for posting your comments.

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It has been a joy to be with you today.

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We will see you tomorrow. Remember that resistance is not

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feutle and blessings to you all always.

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It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's beak intentional