Oct. 29, 2024

First Amendment For A Reason

First Amendment For A Reason

Censorship - Blackout - Restriction - Suppression. Preventing the government from making laws that prohibit your Right to Free Speech! Let's talk about it.

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Censorship - Blackout - Restriction - Suppression. Preventing the government from making laws that prohibit your Right to Free Speech! Let's talk about it.

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for us to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's be intentional. You know we are six days from

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election day and the war on free speech has become

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the leading issue. So the attack of and fight for

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the First Amendment, write a free speech went on my

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bingo card in about twenty twenty, right after the steal,

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when suddenly all of my posts that spoke out about

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election interference, questioning of COVID, or presenting information about early

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treatments and Ivermectin were being tagged, removed, and I was

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being suspended from social media platforms. Who wasn't right? But

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this isn't new. The Sedition Act of seventeen ninety eight

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really criminalized the writing, uttering, or publishing of any false, scandalous,

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and malicious writing or writings about the government of the

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United States. In World War One, Congress passed an amendment

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to the Espionage Act called the Sedition Act of nineteen eighteen,

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which prohibited uttering, printing, writing, or publishing any disloyal abuse

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of language intended to cause contempt or scorn with regards

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to the form of the government of the United States,

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the Constitution, the flag, or the uniform of the army

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or navy. And then there are several provisions in the

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Patriot Act that impact the First Amendment freedoms in a

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fundament mental way, and one of those provisions is called

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Section two fifteen that allowed government officials the ability to

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read business records, library records, healthcare records, logs of internet

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service providers, and other documents and papers without the traditional

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protections that individuals have had and enjoyed. Today, we're going

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to lean in with our special guest, Jeff Dornick, who

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has his finger on the pulse of this issue. He

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is the host of The Jeff Dornick Show, he's co

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founder of Freedom First Network, and he's also the creator

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of a new special social media platform called Pickax. Welcome

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with Me, Jeff Dornick. Hello, Jeff, how are you very good?

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Thank you for having me on the show. I always

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enjoy our conversations.

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Me too, Me too. I've had a little bit of

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less than coffee today, so I'm stumbling a little bit

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on my words, but I am so glad that you're

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with me. So let's talk about it because free speech

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is an important issue these days in age, and you

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heard my introduction. However, there's a difference I think today

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Jeff and in the First Amendment battle, and I believe

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that we are in a period of evolution with the

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rise of like independent journalists sort of filling the mass

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of void that has been left by a nonexistent media.

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Freedom loving podcasters are really now the truth tellers, and

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what was the media is just seems to be a

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propaganda machine that doesn't count on facts or journalism. It's

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mission is just really to promote this agenda on behalf

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of the White House, and their mission seems to be

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stop Donald Trump from becoming president, go after supporters like

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Robert F. Kennedy, Junior Elon Musk, crush to sentem voices,

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stop distribution of free speech because it's been labeled misinformation, disinformation,

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and hate speech, and they're really doing it at any cost. Jeff,

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Now you're for free speech, You've got you enjoy open discourse,

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and then you launched a platform where there's really an

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uncensored opinion and people have the right of expression. So

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I'd love to get your perspective on this if you could.

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Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, it's one of those

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things where the entire setup of America is basically completely

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founded on this idea of free speech. I mean, if

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you go back to our founders, that was the intention

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of setting it up because we were being restricted, we

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were being taxed without representation, We didn't have any say

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in our form of government because we were a monarch,

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you know, with the King of England making all these

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insane you know rules, the British Empire had their had

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their military that was that was basically completely occupying the colonies,

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and we're terrorizing the people and all that. We we

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didn't have the ability or the right to actually air

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our grievances and so so what would happen is if

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you airge your grievances, then the king and or the

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generals or the military would come in and punish you.

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I mean, they had the ability to occupy your home

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with without your without your consent, all these different kinds

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of things. So if you if you go back to

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the very foundation of this country, the First Amendment really

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hinges upon, especially when you're dealing with free speech. Two

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specific issues. One is free speech and one is freedom

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of the press. Freedom of speech, obviously we all understand

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it's it's our it's our verbal words, it's our ability

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to express ourselves, freedom of expression, all that. The thing

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that I think a lot of people in modern day

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America have been brainwashed into misunderstanding his freedom of the press.

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Our founding fathers never intended freedom of the press to

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be a bunch of big corporations. They had the freedom

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to push whatever propaganda they wanted. That's what they want

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you to believe. You don't have to be a credential

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journalist in order to in order to practice freedom of

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the press. Freedom of the press, according to our founding fathers,

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was your ability to write out your grievances. So freedom

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of speech was you go to your public town square,

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you could verbally say whatever you want. Freedom of press

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was you could write down on a piece of paper

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your grievances against the king, or the government, or a

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president or whatever it was. Go down to your local

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printing press, print up a bunch of pamphlets, go around

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your town square, into your neighbors and your friends and family,

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and distribute it freely without any restriction from the government.

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The modern day version of that would be blogs, articles,

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social media things along those lines. So while I think

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we think freedom of the press is Fox News, MSNBC,

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and CNN, freedom of the press is each of us

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individually having the ability to write out our grievances, and

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we need to take that power back. We need to

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take that right back, because we've by by by our

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consent and our apathy, we've handed it over to these

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big corporations that are just propaganda machines. And we're seeing

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that play out in front of us, where Kamala Harris

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and her team are pushing all sorts of insane blatantly,

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you know, provable lies against Donald Trump and his supporters,

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and you know the Madison Square Garden being a Nazi gathering,

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and you can just go down the list of all

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the propaganda that they're pushing, and the mainstream media is

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repeating it even though they know it's a lie, but

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they're hiding behind freedom of the press. That's not freedom

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of the press. Freedom of the press is for you

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and I to be able to write out our grievances

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against the government and spout our opinions without any restriction whatsoever.

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Wow.

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Yes, absolutely, And I see that a lot now, with

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lots of people joining in on substack, doing articles, lots

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of people going out posting podcasters. I mean, it really

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is to me the rise of the independent journalists. And uh,

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you're absolutely right, we have to take that back, otherwise

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it's just a total and complete crush of of us

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and our ability to speak.

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Yeah, and the and the reality we need more people speaking,

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we need more opinions and this and this is one

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of those things where there's there's a difference between the

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actual you know, restrictions on the government when it comes

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to First Amendment and then the spirit of the First Amendment.

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And I think a lot of times we on on

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both sides of the aisle forget the spirit of the

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First Amendment, which which which should be? That we are

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that we are tolerant enough of opposing viewpoints to be

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able to hear them out. We provide a counter argument,

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and we have this this this discussion and debate, you know,

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like like for me, I, I you know, I was

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the recipient because I jumped ship from from Trump over

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to RFK Junior when he ran for president and I

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endore RFK Junior. I got a lot of crap. I

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was censored, I was canceled among conservatives for doing so.

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I was completely blacklisted from a whole host of shows

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and networks, and a lot of it was because I

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didn't toe the line when it came to Trump. Obviously,

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now I'm back and I'm voting for him and endorsed

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them the whole deal now that he and Kennedy have

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teamed up, But the reality of it is that nobody

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actually wanted to have that discussion and that debate and

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that conversation. It was just my way or the highway.

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And so for me, I'm looking at it from the perspective,

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how do we have more nuanced conversations, because I think

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that that's what we need. We need more nuance. And

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the way that social media is set up right now,

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the way that these big tech platforms are set up,

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is not for nuance. It's set up for quick hits,

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chasing impressions. Say something controversial, preach to the choir, what's

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going to get you a lot of likes, what's going

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to get you a lot of clicks and shares? And

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all that. I'm looking at, how do we foster better

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conversations to that way we can actually come to some

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sort of rational conclusion, which we never do anymore on

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social media. And so when when when I was setting

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up Pickac specifically that I have that in mind as

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we're building out all of our features, how do we

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bring back nuance to social media that hasn't been around

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since probably the face the early days of Facebook and

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my Space.

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Yeah. Absolutely, And I want to talk a little bit

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about the censorship because what is now I term it

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Kamala Harris's war on free speech. I don't think that's

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you know, original with me, but it is a significant threat, Jeff,

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to our our god given uninalienable rights and our constitutional protection.

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And I've got a few examples, because people tend to forget.

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But Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook, he came out and admitted

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that the Harris Biden had mean illustration forced Facebook to

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take down posts related to the use of ivermectin and

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that the COVID injections might produce side effects. And you

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know that really hurt and caused undeniable harm to how

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many of thousands we don't even know, he said. He said,

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I regret we were not more outspoken about it, but

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the administration repeatedly pressured social media companies to censor the

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First Amendment rights. There's also a campaign staffer that was

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for Vice President Kamala Harris. His name is Rob Flaherty,

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and he was involved in efforts to censor Americans for

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spreading supposed disinformation about COVID nineteen while he was working

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in the Biden Harris White House. Now, Flattery was also

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named in having been involved in the government's efforts to

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censor Americans in the legal filings that were related to

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the Murphy versus Missouri lawsuit. He is now her deputy

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campaign manager. Then, Kamala brought on a gentleman named Brian

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Fallon as her communications director, and he was the spokesman

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for the twenty sixteen Hillary Clinton campaign. He was involved

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in every one of her scandals, Jeff. He was recorded

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in twenty seventeen saying that he was dan glad that

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Hillary Clinton con colluded with Russia to spread disinformation on

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Donald Trump. And then in twenty nineteen, Jake Tapper like

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asked Kamala about the violation of free speech and President

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Trump being banned from what was Twitter now as ex

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and how that would be like a slippery slope They'd

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have to ban half of Twitter, And her reply was

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just that free online expression is a privilege and that

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censorship is necessary to demand, defend, excuse me our democracy

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from those who spread misinformation. So, Jeff, my first words

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are dictator says what? But Trump is hitler? And in

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what world does this fly. Do you think people are

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seeing through this?

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communist California. Again, we're surrounded by lefties and all that,

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and you know, and it's interesting because I'm talking to

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a lot of people and they're seeing through a lot

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of this stuff. Now, a lot of these lefties, they're

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not jumping ship completely to vote for Donald Trump, because

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they're still triggered, they're still brainwashed, they're still all that,

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but they're beginning to see through a lot of the

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lies and a lot of the censorship. Like, I cannot

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get behind this kind of mentality. This feels like a

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third world country. This feels like Banana Republic. This feels

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like everything that America is not supposed to be. And

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so you know, and so you know, while they're not

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necessarily going to jump ship from Kamala to Donald Trump,

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they're beginning to see through these cracks in the armor.

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a lot of them begin to walk away from the

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Democrat Party. I think a lot of them actually are

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actually considering walking away from the Demo Democrat Party, but

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a lot of them feel like they don't have a

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home anymore, and so it's like, Okay, they're not going

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to jump all the way to a Republican, but they're

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not necessarily going to be Democrat. And I think it's

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gonna be really interesting heading into the next governor election

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nowt here in California, because Gavin Newsom is not going

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to be able to run for reelection this next time

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around because he's turned out. It's going to be interesting

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because from what I'm told, Nicole Shanahan, RFK Junior's VP

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candidate is going to run for governor out here in

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California as an independent, and so I firmly believe that

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if she wins, she has a legitimate chance of winning

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because she's not going to run as a Republican. She's

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going to run as a former Democrat turned independent. And

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I think that there's going and she and she also

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she has not endorsed Donald Trump. She's going to vote

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for him, she's supporting him, but she hasn't endorse him,

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so she's not tied to him in the same way

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the RFK is. I think that a lot of Democrats

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will be willing to walk away from the Democrat party

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to vote for her, and she'll be able to also

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pull in a lot of Republicans. She may actually be

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the next governor of California, which would be phenomenal.

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that he'd probably, you know, go on like two years

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of trying to raise funds and I don't know who

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knows put out more hits on trying to censor political

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speech until two years, four years from then, where he

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can start trying to run for president of the United States.

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chance of being the Demo cret nominee, if not actually

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winning in twenty twenty eight and main and the main reason,

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and so this is why I kind of have the

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feeling that the Democrats are tanking this election, that they

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actually want Donald Trump to be president and actually win

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this thing around, because because they have the option of

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selecting Gavin Newsom to be their nominee. And I and

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I and I said this way back in the day,

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if they pick Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom will win the

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election because he is he is the world's greatest liar

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he will lie himself to the White House. He's convincing.

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In my opinion, he destroyed Rondo Santis in that debate

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that he had with Ronda State is not because Gavin

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Newsom was more right, but because he was more convincing.

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Gavin Newsom is the most convincing liar that will lie

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to you to your face, with a smile in his

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face and make you feel like he actually believes what

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he's saying, even though he doesn't believe a word of

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anything that he's actually saying. I believe that if we're

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not careful and we don't select the right candidate in

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twenty twenty eight, after Trump is done with his term,

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that it may be the perfect storm for the world's

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greatest liar, Gavin to run for president and actually win,

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and we could potentially see President Gavin Newsom, which would

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be catastrophic to this country. So we need to spend

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the next four years waking up the American people to

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our worldview, not necessarily to Trump, to trump Ism, to

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all anything like that. What do we believe about the Constitution,

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What do we believe about free speech? What do we

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believe about boris? What do we believe about these things.

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If we can win that war, then I think that

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we stand a very strong chance of ensuring that we

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don't have President Newsom.

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Yeah. Absolutely, I mean we did. We saw what he did.

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He wanted to go after political speech. I mean, this

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guy is I have family that lives in California and

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they just they call him gruesome Newsome because he's just awful,

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you know, as a governor, and he's really made lives

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out there extremely difficult. You know what about the voices

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that are out there that are already speaking, like Tulci

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Gas who was a Democrat and now she's moving over

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to the Republican Party saying that Kamala would have a

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presidency that's against free speech. Michael Schellenberger saying that they

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found a CIA effort to take over the content moderation

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at Twitter now x and that America is dangerously close

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to losing all of our freedoms if Kamala Harris wins,

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because then free speech would be over and our own government,

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which we've seen this now, is behind the censorship complex.

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You've got doctor phil who's calling out Democrats for bullying Americans,

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trying to silence free speech and punish independent thinkers. And

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then Elon Musk coming out and saying, of course they've

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been attacking him, right, I mean they're going after him

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with charges and everything at this point in time, saying

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that the attacks this year on free speech are precedented

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in the twenty first century. And then if Kamala and

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Waltz win and gain power, that that would be it

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for free speech. So what do you think is going

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to happen going forward for free speech if Kamala Harris

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wins the presidency. I hope she doesn't, But but what

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do you see happening to free speech right now?

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I mean, it's it's going it's going to be attacked.

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going to use law fair, they're going to use all

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the tactics, any tactics that they can for people that

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do not comply. And I think X will definitely be

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will be definitely be one of those. The interesting thing

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with with X specifically when it comes to free speech,

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they have written into the terms and conditions freedom of speech,

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but not freedom of reach. And they've you know, their

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their CEOs, a you know former you know World Economic Forum,

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you know, a person came out of Hollywood. She's she's

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definitely a lefty, not not a conservative or libertarian by

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by any means. And it's definitely been concerning watching watching

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them because the way the way that they that they've

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been positioning themselves is that it's it's a free speech platform.

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But the reality of it is when you actually look

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at the terms and conditions and the way that they

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set it up, they set up to where you're technically

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allowed to say whatever you want. However, that that doesn't

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mean that they have to allow anybody to actually see it,

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which again is would be a violation of the spirit

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of the of the First Amendment because they're they're they're

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you're supposed to have their freedom of speech and the

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freedom of the press without restriction. And that's the that's

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part of the problem that we have if with a

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policy like freedom of speech but not freedom of reach,

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is that it's the equivalent. And I always use this example.

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Square and he said he set up a stage and

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said we're gonna have it. We're gonna end a microphone, speakers,

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the whole deal. It's like, we're gonna have a free

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speech event. You can get up on stage, you can

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say whatever you want in to a microphone, and I'm

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not going to censor you. You know, you're free to

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say whatever you want. And then you get up there

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and you start talking, and all of a sudden he

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gets mute and you're like, well, I'm you know, you

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said this was a free speech event, and he goes

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it is. You're allowed to say whatever you want to

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the microphone. That doesn't mean that I have to have

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it unmuted. That doesn't mean I have to allow anybody

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to actually hear what you say. And that's the equivalent

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of what is happening on X is that is that

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they're allowing people to say whatever they want, but they

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are severely limiting people from actually being getting the reach

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that they have earned through their following or through SEO,

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through algorithms or anything along those lines. That's a concern

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when you have that written into your terms and conditions

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for the future. Now. Right now, Elon's taking a strong

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stand in support of Donald Trump, which which is phenomenal.

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And you know, there's different theories about as to why

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he's doing that, and you know, we could dive into

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that if you want to but at the same time,

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looking at after post election, if Kamala Harris gets in there,

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they do have the terms and conditions in place to

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where they could provide the censorship without changing the terms

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that they that they have that would satisfy the Kamala

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Harris presidency.

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Nick, you said, we could dive into a little bit

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of why Elon musk Is is supporting Donald Trump, what

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you think about that?

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So so the the reality of it is is that

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you we have to remember Elon musk Is a is

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a government contractor. He works for the military or intelligence

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agencies he works for. He works for foreign governments as well.

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He's he's got deals and partnerships with governments all all

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around the world. I've oftentimes been very very concerned about

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about Elon and his motivations of purchasing Twitter, turning it

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into acts the whole deal. Uh And and I firmly

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believe that with a policy like freedom of speech but

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not freedom of reach, the main thing that he's doing

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is he's doing data collection. So when when you understand

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that what he's doing with X is he's trying to

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develop the world's most up to date relevant artificial intelligence

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on the planet, he's collecting data from all of his companies.

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What most people don't realize is that Tesla is one

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of the worst offenders at unknowingly collecting your data, which

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means every time you get into a Tesla and you

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connect your phone, they're collecting all the data off your phone,

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and then it's going on to servers that in China,

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and then they're using all that data that's off of

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your phone to funnel into their artificial intelligence they're on X.

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So then you start looking at what, okay, what are

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they doing with all the information that's that's on X.

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So they're allowing you to say whatever you want, which

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allows conservatives, lefties, everybody to break news, talk about their opinions,

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all that kind of stuff. Where's all that data going?

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That data is going into their artificial intelligence to fuel

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their AI. Again, is very fast becoming the most powerful

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man on the planet because he has the most relevant

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up to date artificial intelligence operation on the planet in

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my opinion, because he's collecting data from every which way

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that he possibly can, which means that now he's going

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to be able to use artificial intelligence to sell advertising,

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to manipulate people to get them to vote in particular

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ways to influence people. As you know, you've all knowa

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Harari has already said that we've lost our free will

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because they can control you from within. Oh wait, Elon

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Musk has an implant that will go onto your brain

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that can erase your memories and replace them with new

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ones that can also connect to the Internet that can

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also connect to artificial intelligence. Anything that's connected to the

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Internet is hackable. What does that mean for your brain?

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When you combine all of this. Elon Muskin his past

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also has ties with the World Economic Form, so does

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his CEO of X. There are a lot of concerns

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about the future. It's great that Elon is backing Trump

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right now because it's the push that Trump needs in

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order to get him into office. But there could also

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be other motivations involved in that as well, especially because

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he's the only truly big tech Silicon Valley CEO that's

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backing him. Especially if you see the writing on the

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wall that Donald Trump is going to be the next president,

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it makes sense why Elon would get behind Trump. It

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would makes sense why Mark Zuckerberg came out and says, oh,

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just a couple of months before the election, I regret

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that we censored content at the rest of the CIA

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and intelligence agencies. In all reality, they're hedging their bets

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because they know who's going to win the election. They're

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positioning themselves to make sure that they don't get they

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don't get retaliation, uh, you know, or or any any

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kind of regulations and things like that.

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So what do you what do you think needs to

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be some of these strategies because you know, I mean

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some of this like our show goes on Facebook, you know,

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we go on x you know, those are are necessary,

467
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.519
you know, for for us to be able to reach

468
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.759
people and get out our message. But but what are

469
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:33.200
your thoughts on strategies to maybe combat some of this

470
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:39.519
data collection, shadow banning, all of all of this stuff,

471
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.559
the algorithm manipulation and all of that.

472
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.440
Yeah. So, so the thing is that that social media

473
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.160
and these big tech platforms right now are necessary evil

474
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.480
and and I always say as conservatives and as Christians,

475
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.039
we are called by God to go to where the

476
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.480
people are. Even you know, if you if you look

477
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.160
in the New Testament of the Bible, you see the

478
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.559
apostle Paul and the rest of the disciples going to

479
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.759
where the people are. They you know, Paul would go

480
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.000
into you know, foreign idols temples and discuss and debate

481
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.000
theology with false profits. You know, that was the strategy.

482
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.759
So you go to where the people are. In this case,

483
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.720
the people are on Facebook and Twitter and social media

484
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.680
platforms and YouTube and all that kind of stuff. However,

485
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.200
we also have to be careful to where we're not

486
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.960
reliant upon the enemy territory, which would be these big

487
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.279
tech platforms. And that's one of the reasons why I

488
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.000
am building pickacs specifically, is because I'm trying to create

489
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.400
a space to where you can then funnel people back

490
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.160
to to where there is actually true free speech. There's

491
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.200
no shenanigans when it comes to algorithms. If you earn

492
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.079
an audience, they're going to see your content. But also

493
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.839
we're bringing in people from multiple different venues, multiple different ideologies,

494
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.799
multiple multiple different backgrounds and genres to where it's not

495
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.039
just a conservative maga bubble. Now you're actually going to

496
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.279
be able to have discussions and debates with opposing points

497
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.839
of view, be challenged a little bit, challenge to other people,

498
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:01.000
things like that. But we need a space that's going

499
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.480
to preserve true and honest and open debate and discussion

500
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.720
over the issues, and right now in the current in

501
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.480
the current landscape, we don't truly have that right now,

502
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.599
and that so that's why I'm building that. So we

503
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.319
have to be anywhere and everywhere that we possibly can,

504
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.960
because that's where the people are. But then we also

505
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.240
need to need to begin to make our home base

506
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.559
somewhere that is aligned with our worldview when it comes

507
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.400
to things like free speech and freedom of the press

508
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.680
and data collection, which the way that I've set up

509
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.640
Pickacs specifically, especially when it comes to advertising, we do

510
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.400
zero data collection, So we're not collecting your data. I

511
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.720
don't care. We have a unique and innovative way of

512
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.079
being able to target our ads without collecting anybody's data.

513
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.559
And the reality of it is, I think it's actually

514
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.720
a lot more effective than than the massive data collection

515
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.759
you know, machines that these big tech platforms have.

516
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:54.119
Yeah, now, is that the biggest difference between pick ax.

517
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.079
Tell us a little bit more about pickax and and

518
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:03.119
how that would compete eat with X and Facebook some

519
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.079
of the other bigger social media platforms.

520
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.119
Sure, so, yeah, I I appreciate that question. And so

521
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:10.839
so the the way that I've set up, the way

522
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.000
that I've set up Pickax with with my team is

523
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.960
it's right now at launch. It's kind of a hybrid

524
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.240
between X and substack. Just to put a mental picture

525
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.920
in your mind. Right, so you've got you've got your

526
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.839
social media feed and all that. You also have the

527
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.480
ability to write articles and post articles directly within within

528
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.599
the platform as well, you can put things behind a

529
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.559
paywall if you're a content creator, you can. As a

530
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.920
content creator, you'd also be able to monetize the free

531
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.839
public articles as well, because we're going to put a

532
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.720
unique proprietary uh you know, ad platform to where we're

533
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.640
put We're putting ads within your article and then you

534
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.759
will you will earn revenue based upon the converted sales

535
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.720
that are coming from each of those ads that are

536
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.079
that are on your content. And so so what we're

537
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.480
doing is we're setting this up to where we are

538
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:59.000
incentivizing financially for content creators to have more long form,

539
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.799
nuanced content stations. So if you're if you're on X

540
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.400
right now, they have their revenue share model for content creators,

541
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.519
but they have you chasing impressions, which means you have

542
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.519
to post a ton of times a day, you have

543
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.960
to engage you have to engage with with anybody and everybody,

544
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.799
which basically just becomes trolling. You post controversial things, clickbait things,

545
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.279
you know, the whole deal. Whereas with us, we're not

546
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.920
incentivizing that. We're incentivizing the long form articles. If you

547
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.440
if you post your show you on YouTube, Rumble, Apple Podcasts,

548
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.640
or Spotify, it's playable within the platform as it's as

549
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.039
if it's native. So that way, you know, if you

550
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.319
just post your Rumble video in the newsfeed or in

551
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.039
an article, it's playable right there. It's not an outbound

552
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.559
link that's going somewhere else. It's playable right there. So

553
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.039
what we're trying to encourage and incentivize is long form,

554
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.319
nuanced conversations on the platform. And then we've set up

555
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.119
the algorithms to where they are completely unbiased when it

556
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:52.839
comes to opinions, positions, uh, you know, topics that you're discussing, anything,

557
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.160
anything along those lines. They are completely neutral, unbiased to

558
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.880
where you know, if if you say something that's controversial

559
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.559
or outlandish or whatever it is, it's not going to

560
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.319
have any bearing whatsoever on your earned following or your

561
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.039
ability to trend in our in our trending tab. So

562
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:11.880
I've set it up as close as I possibly can

563
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.240
to the spirit of the First Amendment, but also using

564
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.720
our monetization platform as well to incentivize the right kind

565
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:20.880
of conversations that I think we all wish that we

566
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.880
could have and we used to be able to have

567
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.519
on these social media platforms that now it's just turned

568
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.279
into a bunch of clickbait gaming. The system gaming, the

569
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.559
algorithms and all of that. So those are some of

570
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:31.480
the big differences there.

571
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.160
Gotcha. Now you are still in the beta phase, right

572
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.559
or when does Pickax come out?

573
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.720
Yeah? So it's actually out. It's out and available for

574
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.640
anybody and everybody. Everybody can hop on there. We're still

575
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.880
technically considered in beta right now, just as we're developing

576
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.920
a few more features and all of that. But we're

577
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.640
going to do a really big marketing MPR push post election,

578
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.440
and so we're going to have a huge influx of

579
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.359
users and all of that coming up. But the biggest

580
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.400
thing that we're doing right now is making sure that

581
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.559
we have that we have the infrastructure in place to

582
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.720
where we're not just a cheap knockoff of these big

583
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.079
tech platforms, because that's one of my biggest criticisms of

584
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:11.759
a lot of the a lot of the alternative social

585
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:14.039
media platforms that have popped up is I feel like

586
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.640
what they did is they just look at Facebook and

587
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.759
Twitter and they just try to copycat what they do,

588
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:21.160
but oftentimes it's not nearly as good as as what

589
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.359
they're as what they're doing. What we're trying to do

590
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.200
with Pickax is set up the infrastructure to where we

591
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.839
anything that we do, we are doing with excellence, and

592
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.359
we are doing to where there's some form of the

593
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.960
feature that is better than anything else that's out there.

594
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.680
And so whether it's right now, it's our timeline, it's

595
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.599
our algorithms, it's our ability to monetize that it's actually

596
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.279
patent pending, our way of our way of monetizing without

597
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:48.599
data collection or anything along those lines. We're down the road.

598
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:50.960
We'll we'll develop more when it comes to podcasting and

599
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.960
video and live streaming and all of that, but everything

600
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.279
will be done with excellence, and we're going to try

601
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.160
to create a true alternative, not just a knockoff, but

602
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.720
something that's superior to where people will want to leave

603
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.839
these other platforms because what they see on Pickax is

604
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.400
going to be superior to what they're experiencing on Instagram

605
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.079
and Twitter and Facebook and things like that. So that's

606
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.400
really where we're at right now. But anybody can join

607
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.719
pickax right now. Anybody can join in the conversations.

608
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:16.159
Uh.

609
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.760
The one other unique thing that we have as well

610
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.880
is we're offering verify. Our verification system is absolutely free,

611
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.719
and this is our way of actually weeding out the

612
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.480
bots and the anonymous troll farms and all that kind

613
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.440
of stuff. So you just log on in the settings tab,

614
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.320
there's a very get verified tab. You click on that,

615
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.360
you submit your your idea. We'll make sure that it

616
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.239
aligns with the name that's on your account. If if

617
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.480
you have a stage name or pseudonym or something like that,

618
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.519
just then us send us a private message and we'll

619
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:43.440
work through that and get that taken care of. But

620
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.199
then that way, anybody who's not verified will never trend,

621
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:49.760
will never be recommend will never be recommended in the

622
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.079
in the recommendation tab, and their comments are going to

623
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.119
be weeded out to where the only people that you're

624
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.400
truly going to be seeing unless you intentionally go looking

625
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.119
for it, are going to be verified users, which means

626
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.320
when you're at she's speaking to somebody. You know, it's

627
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.960
a real person, as opposed to on Twitter, you don't know.

628
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:05.920
Is it a bot, is a troll farm? Is an AI?

629
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.079
Who are you actually talking to? And then that's also

630
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.280
a way of us bypassing a lot of the censorship

631
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.920
rules and content moderation rules that like the State of

632
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.559
California is putting into place, Apple's putting into place, Google's

633
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.079
putting into place. Because what we're doing is we're weeding

634
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.599
out all the troll farms that are used by the

635
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.760
CIA and foreign governments in order to manipulate the American

636
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:31.719
people with fake news stories and ridiculous made up, you know,

637
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.079
trending facts about Trump or Kamala or whatever it is.

638
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.840
They're just trying to sow chaos. And so by doing

639
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.440
it this way, we are eliminating these intelligence agency bought

640
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.840
farms and their power over and to propaganda is the

641
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.159
American people that we saw play out in twenty twenty,

642
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.079
in twenty twenty two, and we're seeing play out again here.

643
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.800
On twenty twenty four. Elon promised that that that's what

644
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.679
his blue check mark was going to do. But the

645
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.960
reality is anybody and their mother can get a blue

646
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.280
check mark, especially even bought farms. It doesn't take much

647
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:05.599
to be able to get it. You don't have to

648
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.280
you know, your name does have to match your ID,

649
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.639
nothing like that. There's so many anonymous verified accounts that

650
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.159
that are that are on x and they're being inundated

651
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.039
with bot farms and anonymous troll accounts, so that those

652
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:18.559
those are some of the things that will set us apart.

653
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.000
That I hope people will hop on Pickax and join

654
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:21.519
in with all that.

655
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.599
Absolutely now it does. Is there an app for it

656
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.079
too for your phone?

657
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.679
Not right now, right now. Right now, we're web based,

658
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.800
similar to the setup that that gab has. However, we

659
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.480
are in the process of developing an app that will

660
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.400
be coming out in the next several months. That is

661
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.039
taking significantly longer because there's a lot more hoops you

662
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.320
have to jump through to be a truly free speech

663
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.280
social media platform, and so that's why we went web

664
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.079
based first. But an app is coming, and we do

665
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.920
have a strategy of being able to get approved and

666
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.880
be in the app store without any content moderation, because

667
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.679
that's one of my that was one of one of

668
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.719
my biggest criticisms of places like True Social and Getter

669
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.800
and cloud Hub and all these platforms that are in

670
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.880
the App Store. Is if you look in their terms

671
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.679
and conditions, they all have content moderation and censorship written

672
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.840
into their terms and conditions. True Social contracted with a

673
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:18.599
Silicon Valley artificial intelligence company to do their censorship for

674
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.960
them on the platforms so that way they could abide

675
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.079
by the rules of Apple and Google. What we're looking

676
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:27.440
at is is that is that by having our verification

677
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.639
system in place, weeding out all the trolls, weeding out

678
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.800
all the anonymous accounts and bots and all that kind

679
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.719
of stuff, that will also weed out the vast majority

680
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.719
of the Nazi language, the racism, the insanity that you

681
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:42.039
see on platforms like gab, where the vast majority of

682
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.320
the horrific things that you see are they're hiding behind

683
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.679
a fake account or an anonymous account, they're not actually

684
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.239
putting their their face to their name. And so by

685
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.159
by doing that, we're weeding out a lot of the craziness,

686
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.440
a lot of the chaos and that. And so we're

687
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.239
going to we're going to be in the app stores

688
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.559
with it within the next several months and then that

689
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.679
will be coming. But right now we are we based

690
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.519
only gotcha.

691
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:08.760
So let me just ask you this because with you know,

692
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.800
even with the election of Donald Trump, which we are

693
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.239
really praying for, there has already been massive damage done

694
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:24.519
from the censorship, the disinformation campaigns, the redefining of discourse,

695
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:29.760
and really the deliberate denial of critical thinking. So do

696
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.880
you think platforms like pickax would be enough to to

697
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.800
sort of undo that damage? Is is that what we need?

698
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.519
Or how would we go about like not just reaching

699
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.119
the people who are already out there on social media,

700
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.119
but those who are younger, those future generations who really

701
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:56.119
seem to be muzzling each other. And I can tell

702
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:58.719
you I go online and I post something about medical

703
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:04.159
freedom and it's an automatic attack, you know. So what

704
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.559
what do you think what needs to be done to

705
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:08.760
undo some of these harms?

706
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.880
Uh So, So in all, in all reality, the intelligence

707
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agencies that have been used in order to manipulate and

708
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:19.199
propaganize the American people, brainwash them uh into believing what

709
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.239
what what benefits them and the big corporations the most.

710
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Uh And so that's something that we have to overcome.

711
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.719
But they but they only have power if we succumb

712
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.920
to their brainwashing and propaganda techniques like if we don't succumb,

713
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.400
they have no power. And that's the thing, and this

714
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.320
is the thing I keep encouraging everybody. On a side

715
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.760
note as well about about this election is that you know,

716
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.639
I've been hearing a lot of conservatives say, look, if

717
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.920
Donald Trump loses, it's the It's the end of America.

718
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.239
And I used to feel that too, But as I've

719
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.800
been reflecting and I've been thinking through this election, more

720
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.000
and more I keep I keep I keep coming to

721
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.480
the conclusion that even if Kamala Harris wins, it'll be

722
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:55.519
horrific for the country because she's going to do everything

723
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.679
everything that she can to destroy take away o freedoms,

724
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.960
take away our liberty is the whole deal. However, America's

725
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.360
only done when we say it's done. America's only done

726
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.599
when we the people agree that it's done, because we

727
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.000
are a self governing society. And the evidence of that

728
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.960
is the propaganda that the intelligence agencies are weaponizing on

729
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.440
the American people because they know they can't physically control

730
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.280
three hundred and fifty million people. However, if you can

731
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.519
brainwash half of the country, two thirds of the country,

732
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.960
even a third of the country. Now, all of a sudden,

733
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:30.519
you have control and people will comply with your every wish.

734
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.239
So the reason why they do propaganda is to get

735
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.960
you to consent to their tyranny. That's why they do it.

736
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.239
And so what we need to do in the next

737
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.239
several years, I don't care if Kamala Harris gets in

738
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.840
or Donald Trump gets in. Our mission needs to be

739
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.280
the same. Our mission needs to be to wake up

740
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:51.920
the American people to go where they are and help

741
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.039
them to understand the truth about what is actually going on,

742
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.639
the truth about the Constitution, the truth about the corrupt

743
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:03.760
name nature of our federal government and all the industrial complexes,

744
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.039
whether you're talking about the military, the intelligence, big pharma,

745
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.719
the whole deal. We have to wake people up to

746
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.559
what is really going on. And that's not just going

747
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.079
to be social media. And that's why one of the

748
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.920
things that I'm working on with Pickaxe as well is

749
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.039
that we're going to branch out from just being a

750
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.239
social media platform to really trying to do exactly what

751
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.159
we're talking about right here. So we'll be doing in

752
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.039
person events around the country to equip people with the

753
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.920
proper worldview of understanding freedom of speech, the right to

754
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.079
bear arms, medical freedom, why these things are so important,

755
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.840
So that way then we can send people out into

756
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.119
their neighborhoods and their communities, with their friends and their

757
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.079
family to actually help them to be able to win

758
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.639
people over, not just to vote Republican or vote Trump,

759
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.480
or vote whatever it is, but actually to walk away

760
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:55.199
from this leftist, Marxist, socialist worldview that the Democrat Party

761
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.960
has embraced. The reality of it is is that we've

762
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.400
seen this now with the Donald Trump Dream Team with

763
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.280
Rfk Junior and Tulci Gabbard and Elon Musk and vi

764
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.000
viak Ramaswami and the whole deal. The thing that we're

765
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.920
seeing with that is that there's a wide variety of

766
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.440
viewpoints on a whole host of issues. But we have

767
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.440
to look at what do we actually agree on. We

768
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.519
agree on the foundational principles of freedom of speech, medical freedom,

769
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.320
that get the government out of our lives, get out

770
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.400
of foreign wars, close our border. If we focus on

771
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.360
the things that we agree on right now, I think

772
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.840
that we can actually have widespread consensus around the country.

773
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.840
But the key is going to be spending the next

774
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.000
four years not focusing on the candidates, but focusing on

775
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.960
these unifying issues, because I guarantee you, even if we're

776
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.199
talking pro life, which is a very contentious issue, I

777
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.320
would argue probably seventy to eighty percent of Americans agree

778
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.400
that abortion should not be legal in the final trimester.

779
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.559
So let's focus on that first. Let's not immediately go

780
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.639
to conception. We can on a personal philosophical view, but

781
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.480
when it comes to policy, let's focus what we agree on.

782
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:03.840
We agree, let's ban abortions in the final trimester all together,

783
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.719
and then let's debate the second trimester, and then let's

784
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.360
debate the first trimester. Let's do this incrementally. Let's do

785
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.119
this on Let's focus on what we agree on first,

786
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.320
and so if we do that, that's what the Donald

787
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.960
Trump Dream Team is doing. That's what RFK Junior was

788
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.360
doing when he was running for president. He was focused

789
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:24.159
on the issues that we all as Americans agree on.

790
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.559
I think the vast majority of Americans want to close

791
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.559
the board, the vast majority of Americans want to get

792
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.719
out of wars. The vast majority of Americans want us

793
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.199
to stop printing money, stop being reliant on China, stop out,

794
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.320
stop allowing the intelligence agencies to be rode to stop

795
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.599
with stop with all the pesticides and the harmful chemicals

796
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.400
that are in all our foods. You could just go

797
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.280
down the list. These are the things that Americans agree on,

798
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.000
but the intelligence agencies and our politicians won't let us

799
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.800
focus on that because what they're focused on are what

800
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.159
we disagree on, the contentious issues that we should do,

801
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.960
that we should be debating after we resolve what unifies us.

802
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.440
So if we can focus on that for the next

803
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.679
four years, I think that I think that we could

804
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.159
really turn things around in this country.

805
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:11.039
Absolutely. And you know, we we have a little interaction

806
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.280
and we've had people who have said there there shouldn't

807
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.159
be debate on what you do with your own body.

808
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.159
Now I agree with that. You know, you shouldn't be told,

809
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:25.840
you know of how you are able to say. I

810
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:29.880
am in control of what goes in, what is put in,

811
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.679
what I do and do not do with my body,

812
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.920
so you know. But but that's as far as medical

813
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.320
freedom goes. I'm not trying to dive off into abortion

814
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:45.880
because I don't believe in abortion. That's me. I do

815
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.360
want to give you, though, Jeff, we're quickly approaching the

816
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.320
end of our interview. And I always hate it because

817
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.440
I love being able to talk to you, but I

818
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.880
want to give you the last word. Just kind of

819
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.320
tell us about anything that you want us to know

820
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:03.000
that you think we need to know anything.

821
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.880
Oh yeah, definitely. So you know, I highly encourage everybody

822
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.159
to go over to pickax dot com. That that's where

823
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:09.280
you can sign out it to p I c k

824
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.800
a X dot com and and again it's it's a

825
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:16.519
completely constitutionally protected free speech social media platform. And so

826
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.880
so we're actually bringing on a lot of journalists, a

827
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.679
lot of independent voices, a lot of show hosts, We're

828
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.639
getting some radio networks that are coming on the whole deal.

829
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.599
So it's gonna be really interesting and a lot of fun.

830
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.480
But really try try to join in the conversation as

831
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.400
much as you can and be okay with disagreements. Challenge

832
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.599
yourself by by allowing others to challenge you. And then

833
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.760
when you get into a debate with somebody, whether it's

834
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.880
on social media, whether it's with your friends and family

835
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.599
over dinner, or you know, just getting together at a

836
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:46.159
family gathering, be okay with disagreements. Don't turn it into

837
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.599
a yelling match. Listen to what the other person is saying. Listen,

838
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.599
and then guess what you might be wrong on something.

839
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.760
You may need to rethink something. So then you take

840
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:56.480
the information that they give you. Maybe you do a

841
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.840
little bit of research, and you do some self reflection.

842
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.159
This is what I try to do as much as

843
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.639
possibly can. Do some self reflection and see, Okay, did

844
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.360
their argument overcome my objections. If it did, maybe I

845
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.920
need to rethink either my argument, or maybe I need

846
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.360
to rethink my position a little bit and adjust it slightly,

847
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.840
or you're more reinforced at what you already believe. But

848
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.840
that's going to be one of the biggest things moving

849
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.440
forward that if we can have that mentality spread far

850
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.079
and wide, no matter whether you're conservative, progressive, liberal, libertarian,

851
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.440
whatever it is, If we can begin to have more

852
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.440
self reflection as a country and as individual Americans, I

853
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.559
think that we can begin to end this extreme polarization

854
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.920
that we're doing. So there's that that's what we're trying

855
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.239
to do with PICKACS. I actually also just launched a

856
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.519
record label called the Anti Label, and so we're going

857
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.960
to be getting into music and film and all that

858
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:48.719
kind of stuff as well. Again opening up and trying

859
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.480
to give people back their voice because artists and musicians

860
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.440
and filmmakers and everybody they're being sent they're either being

861
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.039
censored by Hollywood or they're being forced into a maga

862
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.599
conservative Christian algorithmic bubble over here. There's a huge opening

863
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.920
for actually free speech content where people can actually begin

864
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.320
to express themselves and dive into controversial issues that neither

865
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.599
side necessarily wants to dive into. So that's what we're

866
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.000
doing right now. You guys can check that out at

867
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.840
Anti Label music dot com and then we're gonna be

868
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.119
doing a lot of stuff with that as well.

869
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:25.159
So wow, Jeff, that is some fabulous information. I am

870
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.400
so glad that you were with us today. I want

871
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.159
to thank all of you for being with us today

872
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.880
and it was so wonderful to interact with all of you.

873
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We're going to see you tomorrow. Remember, resistance is not

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