March 6, 2025

Investigate Covid Hospital Protocols Now

Investigate Covid Hospital Protocols Now

A brief was filed on behalf of Oklahomans to the Attorney General to Open Investigations and Prosecutions into the Covid Hospital Protocols. The AG says he is unaware of any state law charges that could be filed, consistent with Supremacy Clause...

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Season 1

A brief was filed on behalf of Oklahomans to the Attorney General to Open Investigations and Prosecutions into the Covid Hospital Protocols. The AG says he is unaware of any state law charges that could be filed, consistent with Supremacy Clause Immunity. Is that true?

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for us to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's be intentional. Ladies and gentlemen. I would like to

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take a few minutes to give you an update on

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what I and my group, the OKA Defenders of Medical Freedom,

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have been doing in the state of Oklahoma. As some

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of you may or may not know, as a nurse

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in twenty nineteen, I was working in clinical trials and

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had first hand experience utilizing mRNA technology that was administered

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to patients who relapsed from transplant. They were going into

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cytokind storm. We were very aware of how ill these

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patients would become and the risk of death. So when

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our government Biden and Harris mandated a countermeasure across the

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nation that was experimental using mRNA technology, that is a

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line that should have never been crossed, particularly for pregnant women, babies,

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and children. During COVID, I became aware of a use

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of a drug called remdesivir. It was being used for

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the COVID hospital protocols and it had been used by

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doctor Fauci and doctor Barrick in the congo Ebola clinical

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trials back in twenty eighteen, a drug that had to

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be removed moved from those trials because of the greater

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than fifty percent death rate, twenty percent increase in kidney failure,

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and increase in multi organ failure, A drug that was

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used on military service members through the Department of Defense

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and clinical trials back in March of twenty twenty, prior

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to the EUA initiation, where the death rate was sixty

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four percent. I soon became associated with a group called

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the former FEDS group Freedom Foundation, and I began hearing

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stories from eyewitness testimonies of dehydration, starvation, isolation, discrimination based

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on back status, abuse of chemical and physical restraints, the

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rush to intubation and ventilation, the lack of informed consent,

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and many more egregious wrongs that had been allowed and

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were documented through medical records and test testimonies. Soon after that,

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whistleblowers like doctor Merrick and Stella Paul began exposing the

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horrendous incentivization surrounding the COVID hospital protocols, such as payments

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that were being given out for a positive COVID diagnosis,

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a twenty percent bonus payment for the administration of remdesevere,

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bonuses that were being given for ventilating patients, bonuses if

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the cause of death was listed as COVID, And then

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we started to see the same thing regarding the COVID countermeasure,

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free weed, free beer, offerings of savings, bonds, debit card giveaways,

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one hundred and fifteen hundred dollars, stimulus checks, and promises

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to enter into like ten million dollar lotteries were being

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given away. It was time for me to stand up

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and speak out, and so I did. Fast forward to

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October seventeenth of twenty twenty four when Representative JJ Humphrey

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opened up a COVID response study with his approval. Our

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group brought in medical and legal experts like doctor David Martin,

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doctor Pierre Corey, Warner Mendenhall, Kevin McKernin, Rachel Rodriguez, and others.

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They outlined education and evidence regarding the harmful impact of

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remdesvie as well as the mRNA technology. They highlighted the

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over broad protections to manufactures and others under the PREP

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Act and the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. And they

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reviewed the conduction of biological weapon development gain of function

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that was done in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen at

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North Carolina Chapel Hill under the direction of doctor Anthony Fauci.

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From that study, a brief was written by Rachel Rodriguez

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and the VERS Law Group and it was submitted to

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our Attorney General Gettner Drummond this last November. It outlined

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the crimes committed during the COVID pandemic and it requested

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criminal investigations be opened and prosecutions to occur on behalf

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of the men and women of Oklahoma who have come

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forward submitting letters requesting action. Our request is a standard

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state procedure and the statutory basis for investigation includes reco charges.

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It is a pivotal, essential, vital, and crucial action that

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we have been preparing for for years, and now we

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have a real opportunity to obtain accountability and justice for

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those who lost their loved ones or who survived but

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now our suffering from residual complications. Last Friday, we received

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a reply from the Attorney General's office. His response stated,

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thank you for reaching out to the Constituent Services Division

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of the Office of the Oklahoma Attorney General. The Attorney

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General is unaware of any state law charges that could

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be filed consistent with supremacy clause immunity. In light of

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doctor Fauci's acceptance of a presidential pardon. The Attorney General

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looks forward to Congress calling doctor Fauci to testify about

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the COVID nineteen pandemic without a Fifth Amendment right against

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self incrimination. And then he went on to say, we

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appreciate you contacting us. We believe that that response is incorrect.

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So today I have brought in the two women who

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we have partnered with, Rachel Rodriguez Esquire, who is the

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founding attorney of the Vers Law Group, and Mimi Miller Esquire,

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attorney at law, to discuss this situation with us. So

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welcome with me, Rachel and Mimi. Hello, ladies, how are you.

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Thank you for.

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Good morning, good afternoons. Thank you Mick, thank you for

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having me ed well.

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Thank you guys for coming on. I really greatly appreciate it.

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You know, it's been a little while since I've had

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you guys on the show, and I think this is

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an important topic to cover. It has certainly impacted those

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of us in Oklahoma, so I want to kind of

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jump right in there. You are both on the front lines.

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You're working to obtain not only legal but lawful accountability

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and justice at the state level for those who were

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victimized through the use of the COVID hospital protocols that

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were known to be incentive lethal and is the only

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option still being used and provided to people who are

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admitted into the hospitals when they test positive for COVID,

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and that protocol was promoted by doctor Fauci, doctor Burks,

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the CDC, and others. Now, one of the terms that

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we have used when speaking to the public. And also

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in the brief is the term criminal enterprise, the COVID

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criminal enterprise ladies for those who are unfamiliar with this term,

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or who may hear it and say, oh, you're being melodramatic.

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You know, you're sensationalizing this. If you could just kind

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of break this down maybe a little bit into Layman's

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terms and review how we can show the accused that's

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listed in the brief really mandated known harmful policies and

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incentivized even coerced others to further these policies. If you

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don't mind, we'll just kind of maybe start there.

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Suremick, thanks again, and I'm gonna I'm gonna lay it

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out sort of on a on a factual basis, and

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then I'll have Mimi fill it in from her expertise

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with regards to the elements of some of the crimes

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that we've identified as as committed by the accused. The

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reason criminal enterprise is that in the law and a

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criminal enterprise would be individuals or organizations that are acting unlawfully,

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uh to further a cause, and they're being they're they're

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gaining profit from it. Now, in some cases you could

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have ostensibly legal or lawful actions that are done for

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unlawful purposes or profit. And so what we see here

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in the in the entirety of of what's happened during

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COVID is you have from the starting point the fact

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that there was a virus that then was unlawfully researched

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and developed to be more lethal, more infectious, more viral.

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That in and of itself is unlawful. There is extraordinary

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profit in that. From there you have it released to

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the public. And then from there you have the portion

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of the enterprise that we've focused on, which is what

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happened in the hospitals as a result of that virus

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getting into the populace. So in the hospitals, we focused

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on the mistreatment of patients resulting in their deaths more

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likely than not some did survive, but resulting in grave injury.

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So and all of that for profit. Again, we can

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unpack that. But the countermeasures is what they're called, the countermeasures,

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or the treatment, medical treatment or failure to treat in

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the hospitals resulted in patient injury and death for profit

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as part of the enterprise, and that's why we've named

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hospital administrators as part of that. And from that that

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those deaths then became the basis, the ostensible, fraudulent, factual

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basis to create panic or terror in the society. Everybody

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can recall the death tickers at the bottom of the

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news feed during the COVID pandemic demonstrating that all these

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people are dying from this ostensibly very lethal virus. Well

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we know actually from the data it wasn't as lethal

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as they said, but the death ticker and the deaths

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in the hospitals, hundreds of thousands of people across the

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country dying demonstrated or created a narrative that was terrifying

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to people. And along with other points of the narrative,

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you know, we don't know what this virus does. It's new,

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it's novel. All these things were designed to create a

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certain psychological state in the society that then moved towards

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resulting in both societal action and particular policy outcomes. And

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I think I'll let me talk to why that fits

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under what we see as terrorism, domestic terrorism, and then

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from there we all know that at the end of

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twenty twenty and into twenty twenty one, finally in twenty

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twenty one, they're being mandated gene therapies. That was the

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policy and societal outcome from the terroristic campaign of the

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COVID criminal enterprise. And so that and also we know

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that there's extraordinary profit from these gene therapies and from

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the mandates on that. So that's if I mean, that's

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like a thirty thousand foot view. But that demonstrates why

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we see this as a criminal enterprise using all of

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these these different sectors of authority and society to effectuate

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that outcome.

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Absolutely absolutely, Mimi. Did you want to add to that

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regarding the terrorism or sure?

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looked at the applicable state laws, you know, looked at

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our victims that okay, what crimes were committed against these people.

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Let's take a look at the state statutes. Let's break

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it down. Let's see if there's evidence to support a

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prosecution on this or an investigation at least into this.

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So if we're going to take a look at the

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crime of terrorism in Oklahoma, for example, that's really where

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when you break it down to the elements, it's that

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the actors, the accused, the defendants, they committed some type

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of act or acts of violence those resulted in personal

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injury or death or the threat of that, and their

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purpose in doing that was to intimidate or coerce the

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civilian population or to influence the policy or conduct of

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a government by intimidation or coercion, or in retaliation for

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the policy or conduct of a government. And so really

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when we talk about when we see in social media,

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you know, the way that hospital staff treated their patients,

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all of that, you know what the federal officials were

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putting out at the time, what they were saying in

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their interviews. There's a very coercive and intimidation element to

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everything that was put out related to of it. You know,

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if we also just Rachel had mentioned some of the

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finances just to kind of give some of that numbers.

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When we look at this being an enterprise, part of

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what we looked at is how the federal government interacted

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with the hospitals and hospital administrators and the profits made there.

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So for example, for one person receiving a five day

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courses from de severe the hospitals, it would cost three

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and twenty dollars roughly. If patients were given something like

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ivermectin that cost one dollar. If patients were given poboxamine,

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that was four dollars, you know, hydroxychloroquid one dollar, met

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Foreman ten dollars, you know. And so we really see

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a breakdown of how much the hospitals were reimbursed by

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the federal government for certain treatments. We also know that

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cms and centers for Medicare Medicaid they were using a

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very coercive action from the federal level down to the

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hospitals where they would say, you know, if you don't

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comply with our recommendations, with our mandates, then you will

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be found non compliant, which means your hospital will go bankrupt,

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all of you will be out of jobs. But you know,

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if you do what we want, we'll throw.

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We'll give you so many bonuses. And so for every

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patient that a hospital had a COVID diagnosis on they

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got a baseline twenty percent payment bump from the federal

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government for all care, and then they got additional bonuses

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for the more countermeasures that they could use. Another one

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is if somebody was diagnosed with COVID and was put

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on a ventilator for ninety six hours or more, the

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hospital got about forty thousand dollars for just that one countermeasure,

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but even if they didn't do REMI severe, they'd get

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forty grand. And so that was a lot of what

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we saw. It's a lot of involuntary you know, against consent,

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giving people remdizevere when they said they didn't want it,

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officials part of what we've done as we've looked through

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these Floyer requests and so we talked about how do

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we hold these people accountable. They were emailing about iverromectin

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and hydroxychloroquin in early twenty twenty. They knew about these drugs,

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they knew about the studies, they knew about what people

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saw on the ground in our country and in other countries.

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They saw that it helped, and they chose to not

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release that data. They chose to not follow that data.

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involved in creating. They got them money, and so that's

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sort of how we see those bits of the criminal

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enterprise start coming together.

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And that's what we have or I have heard from

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across the nation. I mean, it's like the stories are

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the same. And I've even heard it from case managers

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who have told me regarding you know, the amount of

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monies back when it was, you know, before they started

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giving remdesevere, when the testing was taking up to a week,

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the insurances were if they met the criteria to say well,

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this could be COVID, they were giving them the payments

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like upfront before they even had the diagnosis, which you know,

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to me is just unbelievable. But ladies, you heard my introduction,

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and because we're working together, you're aware of the response

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that our Attorney general and Oklahoma sent out to everyone

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that emailed him asking for his office to take action

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on a brief that was submitted to him back in

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November twenty twenty fifth of twenty twenty four. And we'll

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talk about that in a moment, but I want to

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give people reassurance that regardless of the response that was obtained,

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the appropriate course to stay on is at the state level.

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So I just want to kind of set the scene

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here just a moment. But you know, President Biden issued

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this sweeping, full, unconditional pardon for doctor Fauci for any

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offense which he may have committed or taken part in

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during the period of time starting from January first of

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twenty fourteen all the way through the pardon date in

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twenty twenty four The pardon supposedly applies to any offenses

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arising from his service as director of the NIAID, as

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a member of the White House Corona Task Force or

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the White House COVID nineteen Response Team, or as Chief

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Medical Advisor to the President. So, from a legal point

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of view, can you address the brief that we submitted

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and how it could or should be used to open

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up state investigations in Oklahoma?

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to speak to the legality of it, not necessarily the

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logistical point of it, because there is a question a

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lot of people have well in light of this, is

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anybody at the stake going to want to do anything?

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I don't think that's the right question. We have to

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ask what can be done, and then we as the people,

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need to press for that. We are the sovereign. We

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are the ones that allow those that we have voted

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for to govern or to take their positions of authority

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by our consent, and so we are now demonstrating this

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is what we want you to do. This is what's lawful,

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look at that and get it done. So I just

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want to point that out for the audience. But with

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regard to the pardon, any executive pardon is only within

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the jurisdiction of that executive, so at the presidential level,

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that is for federal crimes. It does not absolve the

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recipient of a pardon of any state crimes that's not

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within the jurisdiction that would be a governor. A governor

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may also provide a pardon and that would be then

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within the state's jurisdiction. That's not what happened here. Furthermore,

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I want to point out it it's only Anthony Fauci.

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There are plenty of other people and we've identified them

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in our brief that were policy makers at the time,

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were private citizens who were who were taking federal money

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and working illegally in conjunction with the policy makers and

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the federal agents. And we've also identified private actors who

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are the hospital administrators, perhaps not all of them by

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name within each state because that would be too long

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of a list, but we've identified, excuse me, identified the

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position of the hospital administrators who were taking the federal

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money and ensuring that policies that were harmful to patients

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were being incorporated in their hospitals. All of those people

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can still be investigated at any level. There are no

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pardons there. But I think the other thing that's important

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to point out is, well, it's twofold one. I mentioned

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the jurisdiction, So so Fauci can still be brought into

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state courts under state court penal codes. That's still available

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and in conjunction with that, and I'll let Mimi talk

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about this a little bit more. But a preemptive pardon,

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which is what happened here, there is no conviction of

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Fauci yet, and so the pardon is in anticipation of

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the possibility that he is engaged in crimes. And when

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a recipient of a presidential pardon accepts that pardon preemptively

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where there is no conviction, not only are they not

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able to plead the Fifth Amendment against self incrimination, so

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they are now required to testify to everything, including what

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might be criminal, at least within that jurisdiction. So at

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least federally. In addition, there is it's not as strong

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as a presumption, but the Supreme Court has identified that.

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And this was over one hundred years ago identified that

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someone who accepts a pardon preemptively is essentially indicating that

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there is guilt. So a recipient of a pardon does

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not have to accept a pardon, and they can continue

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to use the Fifth Amendment. But where they do accept it,

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and there is an indication that Fauci has thanked the

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president the former president for the pardon, I would assume

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he's accepted it. Now we can take into consideration that

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he has engaged in criminal conduct, or is at least

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indicating that he might have, And I would find that

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to be very interesting at the state level. But then

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there's the other issue, which is what AG Drummond identified

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as well. You know, federal agents can't be hauled into

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state court. They can assert as a defense their immunity

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because they are federal actors and they were operating, as

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we call it, undercolor of law. Well, that requires that

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the individual, the federal agent that's being called into the

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state court actually was operating lawfully. Otherwise that defense is

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not going to apply. A federal agent can simply commit

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a crime, you know, sexual assault on somebody and say, well,

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that was part of my federal job. No, and so

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our argument here is saying there is no there is

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no case, no situation in which murder for hire is

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within the lawful bound of a federal officials position, and

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so therefore the supremacy clause immunity is not going to apply,

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or at least a state law enforcement officer, the AGS

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or the das should press against that defense because it

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doesn't apply on the basis of the evidence that we've compiled.

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And I'll let Mimi fill in any of those details

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because there's a lot to unpack there, but that's how

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we see the situation.

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Yeah, and the Supreme Court again over one hundred years ago,

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has really gone and said, you know, it's not just

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even something like murder for higher or sexual assault, like

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that's not part of your job. But it's actually even

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more nuanced and allows more ability for prosecution than that.

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Because to defeat that federal immunity, what the courts have

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said is that it must be shown that the federal

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actor either was not performing an action that they're supposed

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to act, which would be like the examples Rachel gave,

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or even if if they can show that something was

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an authorized act like writing policy making recommendations, it must

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be shown that they did what was necessary and proper,

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and so really, when you look at what's happened, even

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if they can say, well, this was a fact, this

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was an appropriate act under my authority as part of

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my job, it was not necessary or proper. You know,

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the creation of COVID through gain a function research that

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was not necessary and proper. That wasn't that wasn't appropriate.

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You know, Imposing things like mask mandate, not allowing people's

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family members to be with them when they're sick in

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the hospital, isolating peoples they died alone. That's not necessary

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and proper. There was no scientific basis for any of that.

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You know, we knew that masks didn't work for respiratory

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viruses in nineteen nineteen. You know, that's not new. And

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so these mandates not necessary or proper, you know, requiring

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that hospitals do away with informed consent, and for strings

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like remedizivir on people. You know, vaccinate people while they're asleep,

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give them rem dizevere and tell them it's an antibiotic.

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You know, we've heard these stories, we've seen the evidence

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of this. That's not necessary or proper, you know, to

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light to the population, to lie to the people through

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the media saying, oh, ibermectin is for horses. You know,

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remda zevie is safe. Like you know, if you get vaccinated,

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you won't be able to spread it. You're protecting yourself

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and your dian grandma. They knew those things weren't true,

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and they've admitted those things weren't true, and so that

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was not a necessary and proper use of their authority.

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And so all of that I think is very important.

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And to add to that, Mimi, it's the incentivization too,

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the perverse financial incentives, both on the one end of

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paying for certain things that, as Mimi just pointed out,

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were known to be harmful, but also the withholding of

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funds or the penalizations through harassment of licensing from the

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licensing boards. There's just so much of this, but that

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all of that is clearly not necessary and proper, and

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I would argue it's not even that baseline of a

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low standard. It's higher than that. It is way outside

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the bounds of the authority of the federal position that

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any of these people had. So in the law we

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call Ultravira's it's outside the bounds of your power. And

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that's what we see nearly all of these actions are

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outside the bounds of their power, and so that's not

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the immunity is not going to protect them. Now, yes,

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there is the question of is a state law enforcement

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officer going to have the courage to press forward against

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because indubitably, if they are called into prosecution, and it'll

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be in federal court, but within the state, if an

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agent is brought in, are they going to assert the defense?

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I would assume every single one is going to. But

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will a law enforcement officer look at what we're talking

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about and say, no, that defense is not going to

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stand here and really press for that in court. That's

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what we want to see happen because we believe that

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legally the defense will not hold up.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And there's also seventeen state attorney generals

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who have formed a coalition. So I'm kind of hoping

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that that also maybe and I'm just talking about giving

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a little nod to the attorney general to say, well,

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you've got seventeen other attorney generals over here who wrote

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a letter to Speaker Johnson, and I think they also

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sent it to like Senator rand Paul and Representative Comer

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and the Senate leader Thun and they talked about they

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had a tool at their disposal, the referral of any

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pertinent findings to state officials, you know, from them, but

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you know they were saying it. You know, the pardon

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of Fauci was not extended. It was precluded, you know,

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the state level investigation or legal proceedings. So I mean,

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that's just something to throw in there, you know. But

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I know one of our goals is also to include

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other COVID negative impacts once the investigations are open, such

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as those who have been injured from the COVID shots

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or the children who encountered learning disabilities from being forced

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to wear a mask. Can you speak just a little

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bit to that for people, right?

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I think that one of the challenges in trying to

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figure out how to address the COVID criminal enterprise, which

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is a massive enterprise. Honestly, when you start looking into it.

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M stanton Evan had the law of inadequate paranoia. No

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matter how bad a thing looks, when you look deeper,

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it's much much worse. That is exactly a little bit

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of dark humor. But that's exactly what we find when

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we look at the evidence here, and we've rested the

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hospital mistreatment because in many regards we believe that this

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is an avenue into investigation that will uncover the reality

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of all the other parts of the enterprise and its criminality.

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And even if other elements of the enterprise don't individually

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rise to a criminal prosecution level, they will demonstrate actual harm.

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And so to some degree there's been well, not to

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some degree, to a very large degree, it's been very

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difficult across the country to address the injuries, clear injuries

465
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.400
with clear causation. In my view, it's been hard to

466
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.119
address them in the civil courts. You're talking about children

467
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.440
with learning disabilities because of the development under these mask mandates.

468
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.839
For example, even the thing that I litigate most with

469
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:58.240
regard to COVID and the civil context is the employment mandates.

470
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.440
I have several cases running right now and peeled some

471
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.359
and we've had a very very hard time even on

472
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.400
the employment side, which should not have been difficult because

473
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.440
the laws with regard to employment accommodations are long standing,

474
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:16.759
decades long, with a lot of detailed case lot. It

475
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.160
should not have been as difficult of a road as

476
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.599
it has been. So my view is, if we can

477
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:28.000
demonstrate that the entirety of this is sounds in criminal

478
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.319
violation and criminal culpability, and we demonstrate that at least

479
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.920
as to one component. Since all of it is an enterprise,

480
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.680
all of it is connected, it will be easier to

481
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.319
show because the investigation is going to open up the evidence,

482
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.200
and it'll be easier to show that all of the

483
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:50.759
other points of injury to the American people do need

484
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.079
to be addressed. And even where on the civil side,

485
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.200
there's something called statutes of limitation, which is a time

486
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.000
frame in which you must bring certain civil claims. Actually

487
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.759
that's true in the criminal cases as well, but many

488
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.720
times criminal statues limitations can be a little bit longer.

489
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:12.200
But on the civil side, some of these like malfeasance,

490
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:17.359
you know, the wrongful death in hospitals, there is one

491
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.759
to two year statue limitation, so you not only have

492
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.240
to have all of your medical records, you have to

493
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.880
have a report from a doctor, you have to have

494
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.079
everything lined up in order to go to court within

495
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.680
a year, maybe two years, some states it's four and

496
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.519
that's been Those are the states that you're going to

497
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.079
see more of these cases. And it's very very difficult

498
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.759
for people to get that and at the time they

499
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.720
were trying to bring these cases. There was an understanding that, well,

500
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.920
the COVID protocols was the standard of care. So these

501
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.720
cases have been very, very difficult to bring. But once

502
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:53.240
we demonstrate that there was criminal activity, there was criminal misconduct, negligence, abuse,

503
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.200
and death, wrongful death, now you reopen the opportunity for

504
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.400
individuals to get damages from the civil side of things.

505
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:05.240
And I have faith in the American people and in

506
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.160
those that we've elected that if there are problems with

507
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.599
statutes of limitation, that those can be legislatively resolved. Once

508
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.400
we see that there is criminal action, we can't now

509
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.920
turn a blind eye to the damages at the civil level.

510
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.240
And so that's what my hope is, is that maybe

511
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.279
we can back end it from going on the criminal

512
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.119
side and we'll see some restitution, actual restitution on the

513
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:27.839
civil side.

514
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:34.720
Absolutely, I'm right there with you, ladies. I know that

515
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:39.640
we can't read the mind of the Attorney General, so

516
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.519
I'm not really sure what the intent or the meaning

517
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.680
was when his office sent out the email and there

518
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:53.160
was this specific statement in there that the Attorney General

519
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:58.880
is unaware of any state law charges that could be

520
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:05.279
filed consistently with supremacy clause immunity. However, as a lawyer,

521
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.760
would you just please maybe interpret this a little bit

522
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.920
for us, and how would you respond to that?

523
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.639
Well, Meg, I haven't been pulling the punch of saying

524
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.599
that as a fellow member of the bar several state bars,

525
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.880
I don't find that response legally competent. I know that's

526
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.480
a strong statement that I don't for the reasons that

527
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:34.079
we stated previously, the statement that I don't find any

528
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.280
state charges, well, we laid out a roadmap, twenty something

529
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.079
pages of a roadmap to show you where some of

530
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.440
these might be with evidence. We're not saying that we're

531
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.639
the ones bringing the charges in the prosecution, but we

532
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.800
brought victims who have real stories and have presented real evidence,

533
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.519
and we demonstrated how that evidence meets the elements. We

534
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.440
also on page two of the brief actually addressed the

535
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.039
immunity possibility, and we've also addressed in the brief causation

536
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.679
with regard to some of the people we've identified. So

537
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.840
I think that it is not legally correct. I think

538
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.679
that an individual who is seeking to have the highest

539
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.920
position of executive authority in the state, he's announced that

540
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.800
he's running for governor needs to demonstrate more due diligence

541
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.920
with regard to the law. And I also think that

542
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.679
it's morally not correct. I don't think that somebody seeking

543
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.760
the highest position of both authority and protection of his

544
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.239
constituents can respond in that way Morally, That to me

545
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.360
demonstrates a lack of will, a lack of moral will

546
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.760
to look into the claims that are being brought by victims.

547
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.800
It's the obligation of a prosecutor or an investigator, a

548
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.840
sheriff when allegations of crime are brought and there is

549
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.599
a real injury. And in this case, one of the

550
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.360
reasons we've addressed hospital mistreatment is because there are there's

551
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.079
a debt. It's not just a question of whether the

552
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.159
injury was from this. There is a person who died,

553
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.239
and most of the time when there is a person

554
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.079
who died, there is an obligation of due diligence to

555
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:19.679
look into that. When there is allegation of malfeasance. We

556
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.480
even do that when there might be an accident, we

557
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.760
look into it to decide whether it is an accident

558
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:26.840
or it's malfeasance.

559
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:27.639
And so.

560
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.400
I just really I find this response telling. I find

561
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.599
it very disappointing from somebody who has the highest law

562
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:40.239
enforcement position of his state, and I really look forward

563
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.800
to his looking more closely at this, at what his

564
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:49.679
constituents are saying, and to show some moral concern for

565
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.800
the lives of citizens and the victims who are bringing

566
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.679
this forward. They represent thousands within Oklahoma. We only presented

567
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.280
a few of the victims, but I believe that I

568
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.079
think that you said there was about eight thousand at

569
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.519
least in the data with regard to hospital debts, and

570
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.679
so I think it's.

571
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.599
In twenty thousand according to the CDs.

572
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.320
Okay, I'm sorry, right, No, So some of these some

573
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.400
of these data points are difficult to nail down as

574
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.719
well for some of the same reasons. There's a lot

575
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.360
of fraud. But I think it behooves anybody in any

576
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.639
of the states at least to look at it, and

577
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:29.119
especially a response that quickly developed when, as I said

578
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.960
on page two, had the brief even been read, he

579
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.400
would have seen that we addressed the very point that

580
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.559
he made, and as I said earlier, again, we identified

581
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.280
multiple individuals and the only one that's that's that's mentioned

582
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.800
in the response from the AG's office is Fauci. So

583
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.119
there's a lot more to unpack here, and I would

584
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:56.280
I would really exhort the Attorney General to look at

585
00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:01.239
this and pay attention. This is a a very serious matter.

586
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.719
Lives have been lost and families are ripped apart, and

587
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.039
he's in that position. He's been placed in that position

588
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.000
to look at this and to do what's right by

589
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.000
his constituents.

590
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:17.159
Yeah. Absolutely all handed to you. ME mean, did you

591
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.719
want to add anything into that?

592
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.039
I think Rachel did an excellent job of explaining it.

593
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:24.079
I think as well.

594
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.880
One takeaway that I have from that same sentence about

595
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:28.360
it's not.

596
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:29.880
Known to him.

597
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.559
That means that it can become known to him, and

598
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.199
that gives us a path forward. You know, we don't

599
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.559
we shouldn't be losing hope because one person said.

600
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.480
Ooh, you know, I don't know about this.

601
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.599
This sounds like a big thing.

602
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.599
You know, whatever his reasoning might have been for his response,

603
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.119
he said, it's not currently known to him. And so

604
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:50.320
what we need to do is we need to keep

605
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.719
doing what we've been doing. We need to keep telling

606
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.000
the truth about what's happened. You know. Part of how

607
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.559
we've come this far is because the victims and their

608
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.920
families have continued to tell the truth, you know, those

609
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.159
of us that saw what was happening, We've kept telling

610
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.000
the truth over these years, and so now isn't a

611
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:11.039
time to stop that now's the time to continue, because

612
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.960
we're slowly we got to respond. I think that that

613
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.000
means that they're listening. And so I think this was

614
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.119
actually very encouraging because it means that the more that

615
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.840
we show him here's what the law is. You can't

616
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.920
ignore that you have the legal right and ability to

617
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.280
do this. But also with duty to your people to

618
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.920
do this, because you've been put in this position to

619
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.039
protect your people, you know, And so we just keep

620
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.000
we keep telling those stories of what's happened to people.

621
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.400
We keep talking about their suffering and saying justice must

622
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.000
be done. Something needs to happen because of this. And also,

623
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.719
you know, it gives us an avenue to keep contacting,

624
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.679
to keep saying you have the authority, here's what the

625
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.000
law says. You can't ignore what the Supreme Court has

626
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.559
said that you can do and that you should do

627
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:54.199
in this case.

628
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.400
And so that's right, go ahead.

629
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.280
Sorry, Mick, I was going to say, and to put

630
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.400
back off of that, I mean, the very fact that

631
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:05.159
Ad Drummond has now put his hat in the ring

632
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.920
for governor, he's opening up, he's inviting people to continue

633
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.599
to press on this point. You want to take on

634
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:18.480
the position of executive of your state, then you need

635
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:21.320
to listen to the people. And so I really encourage

636
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:25.719
everyone in Oklahoma don't don't don't despair, and don't give

637
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.119
up this this. I mean, there's there's a there's a

638
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.840
parable in scripture, and it's regarding a judge. You know,

639
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.920
there is a widow who was seeking justice. We don't

640
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.880
even know exactly what it was about, but she persisted

641
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.400
and persisted and persisted respectfully, that persisted in accordance with

642
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.119
procedure to this judge whom the Bible says was actually corrupt,

643
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:47.599
Like these are the facts we know. It is very

644
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.159
you know, and the judge relented because she persisted in

645
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.280
the truth. And so what Mimi saying, I think is

646
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.559
absolutely right. We have to persist with the truth, respectfully

647
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.159
and in accordance with with the law until justice is done.

648
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.800
Amen. Absolutely. Now, I know I got some calls from

649
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:12.639
people and and it kind of reignited their their PTSD.

650
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.920
That's heartbreaking for me, and I know that those of

651
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.440
us who have been fighting and pushing and trying to

652
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:26.440
make cracks in that damn we sort of are feeling

653
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.920
a little renewed in our fire, if you will, kind

654
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.760
of girded up our loins and we've put on a

655
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:40.480
fresh new armor. We're engaging in new strategies. We are

656
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.079
on our knees, we are praying. But you know, I

657
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.559
come from an Italian family, so my great grandmother always

658
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:53.119
used to say do o pravido, which is God provides,

659
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.440
and at least for me and and my group, the

660
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:01.519
Okay Defenders of Medical Freedom, is the hill that we

661
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.000
will fall on. And I want to leave people with

662
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:09.079
a message of hope because you know, we we are

663
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.119
putting this as a matter of prayer, but we are

664
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:17.920
continuing on. We've partnered with the former FEDS group, Freedom Foundation.

665
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.840
We've partnered with the vers Law Group, this wonderful law group.

666
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.440
We have now partnered with the Freedom Brigades and Team America.

667
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.559
We're holding town halls across Oklahoma. We're going to be

668
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:38.119
continuing to provide information, connecting with those who have been

669
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:44.920
negatively impacted. We're engaging with elected officials, garnering their support

670
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.960
for the Age to Act. And so I want you

671
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:56.599
all to continue to make phone calls, send emails, contact

672
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:01.360
the Attorney General, continue to let him know that you

673
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.519
want these investigations to be open. You can contact me

674
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:11.559
at Mick at mcknel dot com. And uh, we don't

675
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.000
want people to lose hope. Ladies. I want to give

676
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.000
you both the last word. Just uh you know anything

677
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.920
that you'd like to to uh leave us as words

678
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:28.159
of wisdom to bestow upon us. I do want to

679
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.880
make sure that everybody knows that the Veers Law Group

680
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.320
their website is down there so that they can go

681
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.559
they can see the brief, but they can also check

682
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.000
out your website and see all the wonderful work that

683
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.760
you're doing across the nation because this brief, this isn't

684
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.039
the only state that you've put this brief in. It's

685
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:50.719
in Texas and Louisiana and Missouri and so so, ladies,

686
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:51.960
I'll give you the last word.

687
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.159
Go ahead, Mimi, and then I'll I'll round out.

688
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.599
Thank you so much for having us on. And I

689
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.880
think I think one thing that you really have been

690
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.280
on the head and he said, we are on our

691
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.840
knees during this time because when you look at just

692
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.599
the depth, the depth of criminality, the depth of horror

693
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.000
that was put upon people, you know, we know that

694
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.639
this is in large part of spiritual battle. You know,

695
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.159
you don't see this kind of evil every day. It's

696
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.800
it's really horrible. And I think that that also can

697
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.840
give us great courage because we know the God that

698
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.280
we know who God is, you know, we know that

699
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:27.119
he is a god who will see his justice done.

700
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.840
He will see the truth be told. And so even

701
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.840
though you know, we have more hope now than we

702
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.119
did a couple of years ago, we've come so far

703
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.960
and we've seen so much positive movement, we still know

704
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.880
that he will win. And so we just keep being faithful,

705
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.760
We keep telling the truth, we keep praying. We just

706
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.320
we don't give up, because He won't give up, and

707
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.519
he won't give up on us, you know, And I

708
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.320
think that that is really one of the most important

709
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.679
ways that we fight this is we just keep praying.

710
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.440
We keep you know, using the law, we use the

711
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.159
processes that are available to us to petition for justice

712
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:02.840
to be done, and we know that it's in God's

713
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.559
handsle that hells he had done in some way.

714
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.639
I agree completely and thank you both for making that

715
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.239
very very clear. And I think also it might be

716
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.119
a tough thing to say, but the job that we

717
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.079
have is to fight evil and to evade the Lord.

718
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:25.119
The job that we have is not responsibility for the victory.

719
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.159
That is God's responsibility and he will see it through,

720
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:33.199
but he uses us. And I think also just for

721
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.800
some real world encouragement, as you mentioned, we have filed

722
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.039
say filed has really submitted this documentation state specific to

723
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.719
the state penal codes with the victims within the state

724
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.519
in Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Missouri. We are just

725
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.599
on the cusp of filing in Pennsylvania and we're working

726
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.039
with brassroots on the ground in Minnesota. So yeah, and

727
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.800
we're going to refile very very shortly in Florida because

728
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:02.519
our first brief there was October of twenty twenty three,

729
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.679
and as some people may or may not know, there

730
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.000
is now a new Attorney General, Uthmeyer, who is in Florida,

731
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.920
and also our governor has signaled that he wants to

732
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.440
address this at the state level. So we feel like

733
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.480
the time is absolutely right now to present this again

734
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.880
with some of the updates and knowledge that we've gained

735
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.480
along the way, and in the course of all of that,

736
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.840
I can't say more because it's an open investigation. But

737
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.880
one of the counties, in one of the states in

738
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.760
which we have submitted essentially pressing charges, we've submitted allegations.

739
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.119
There is an open criminal investigation into hospital homicide right

740
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.800
now in the United States, and I think people need

741
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.079
to be very very thankful for that and take courage

742
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.599
from that. And we do believe it's a serious investigation.

743
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.960
We're very thankful for the law enforcement officers there who've

744
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.079
taken what we've said very seriously, and we expect and

745
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.880
all it takes is really one and from that point

746
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.039
on it's going to be very clear to everyone else

747
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.480
that this is something that needs to be taken seriously.

748
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:11.639
So continue to pray, Continue to hold people accountable who

749
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.599
have sought the office that has to do these investigations

750
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:21.159
and these prosecutions, hold them accountable respectfully, but without relenting.

751
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:27.880
Amen, Amen, Rachel Mimi. As always, it is an honor

752
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.599
and it is a pleasure to be able to speak

753
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.440
with you. Thank you for coming on and kind of

754
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:38.239
laying that out. We want everyone to take heart and

755
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.880
you know, keep having hope we're going to be providing

756
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.440
more information as we go along. So thank you, ladies

757
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.119
both for joining us today. I want to say thank

758
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.800
you to all of you out there for being with

759
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.159
us today. Remember that resistance is not feudal and blessings

760
00:47:58.199 --> 00:47:59.800
to you all always.

761
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:39.920
It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

762
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:41.599
let's beak intention