Feb. 5, 2025

J6::Freely Speaking

J6::Freely Speaking

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Season 1

Join us for the stories, perspectives, insights, and open conversation about everything J6 with Stephen Ondulich, Cynthia Young and Joshua Hernandez.

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It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's speak.

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Intention Hello and welcome to Intentional. I am your host,

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find Intentional. We are very grateful for your support. Now

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are you ready, because it's time for us to stand up,

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speak out, get involved, and let's be intentional, ladies and gentlemen. Today,

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I am going to be joined by three j six

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political prisoners. They will share their stories and we will

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dive into conversations that must be had, including the fact

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that we still have political prisoners who were pardoned on

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January twentieth by President Donald J. Trump. Now let's leave

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in tight and start this conversation. Welcome with me, Stephen

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Andlich Cindy Young, and Joshua Hernandez. Hello everyone, how are you?

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Thank you for joining me.

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Hello, guys, thank you for inviting us.

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How's it going.

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It's going good. And Cindy, I know you're having a

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little bit of video difficulty, so but we've got you

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out there. You doing okay?

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Yep? Thank you for having me. I'm right here.

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You bet, you bet. I'd really appreciate if we could

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everyone maybe just start with you all telling your stories.

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I'm gonna let ladies go first, and then maybe Steven

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and Joshua. I just kind of like you to to

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share with our audience about who you are and a

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little bit of your background story. Cindy, the mic is yours? Okay.

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Well, I'm a grandmother from Bristol, New Hampshire, sixty eight

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years old, and I was arrested in June of twenty

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twenty three, but that wasn't the first time the FBI

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had come to see me after January sixth. I had

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gone to January sixth because I had concerns over a

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fraudulent election, and I also wanted to hear President Trump speak.

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I found myself in the building after being whipped up

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with the crowd by munitions being shot at US rubber bullets,

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cs gas flash bangs, and I was in the building

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for about twenty six minutes, walked through open doors and

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walked out on my own power. I was never asked

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to leave. I asked for directions how to get out

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of that building. So then the FBI came to visit

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me and they opened a case and they looked at

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all the videos that they had and they decided to

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close the case. And then in December of twenty twenty two,

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the Sedition Hunters, which is an arm of the FBI,

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sent information back into the FBI about me. They had

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found more connections with me with video I had. Also

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at that point in time, I was attending school board

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meetings and I was speaking out against CRT curriculum and masking.

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And that was right when Merrick Garland had issued his

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letter that everybody going to school board meetings was a

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domestic terrorist. So the FBI reopened a case on me,

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and then they ended up charging me in June of

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twenty twenty three, and I went through. I had the

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four misdemeanor charges. I brought it to trial. I didn't

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take I had several plea deal offers that I did

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not take, would not take because I felt I did

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nothing that I wanted to plead guilty too. I went

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to trial. I was found guilty on all four counts

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in October, now in November, and I missed going I

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was sentenced, and I missed going to jail by two days.

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When the pardon came through, I was supposed to report

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to jail on the twenty eighth.

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Wow, that's that to me, sounds like a God.

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Thing for sure.

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And I believe That's had his hand in my life

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for a long time. I was when I was an infant.

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I was in a plane crash when I was eighteen

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months old and it was thirty four people on board.

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Ten survived and I think that really God has had

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me in his hand all along, and he didn't let

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go me through January sixth either. Amen.

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Let me talk to you and have you tell us

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your story.

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All right, Well, I'm just a regular. Grew up in

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Maryland and I worked in DC for many years, so

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i'd know the city.

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I've always been very politically interested. I'm kind of the

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outcast among my peers where I follow politics more than sports.

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So I've always had an interest in the affairs of

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my nation, and is since I was old enough to

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know what I was understanding or know what I was

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seeing and reading, I've been following it since then. So

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what brought me to d C on January sixth, twenty

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twenty one was seeing what happened, what they did to us,

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so we know that they rigged the election. I watched

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that happen with the graphs overnight, and then we were

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fed up with the medical tyranny that they inflicted on

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us with COVID, and knowing what we now know about it,

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it makes it even worse. But so there was a

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lot of things, and I think jointly between everybody there

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that had led to a culmination of just outright dissent

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against the government. So for what they were doing to us,

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and so as it is our right to go have

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a redress of grievances, that's what we went down there

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to do. And I don't think anybody had it in

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their mind going to DC, Hey let's go rush the capitol.

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I've been to DC many times before for March for Life,

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for different protests here in their organized events, and it's

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always been peaceful, you know. Yeah, a lot of emotion,

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a lot of you know, excited people, but no violence,

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nothing ever getting out of control. And so my mind,

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this is just another one. And then it was another

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opportunity to see Trump. I'd seen him twice for the

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fourth of July twenty nineteen and twenty twenty the Salute

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to Americas as he called them. Those were a lot

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of fun. So when I saw the stop or the

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yeah stop, the Steel Rally think what it called, what

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they called it, I was excited to go down to

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another one. So just another good old event in DC.

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And as you know, we finished there at the Lips

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and walked towards the Capitol and then I was towards

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the backside of the crowd, so seeing and then hearing

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the telephone game of people reporting what was happening, it

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was like, whoa this is This is very different, and

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so I think my involvement was more out of genuine curiosity.

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I've been in the Capital many times before for tours

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and and other you know, I know people around there,

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so I've gotten you know, many I've been in there

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may times before, so seeing what was happening here, I

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was like, wow, this is different. It's kind of an

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exciting way to see the Capitol again, never had any

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I was never violent, I was never aggressive. I didn't

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do anything the entire day to even look for violence

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or hostility. I was just kind of flowing with the

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with the crowd and curious. So I wanted to see.

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I'm the little kid like I want to go see

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up front. So that was kind of my disposition throughout

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the day. I had a flag with me. I always

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carry flags when I go to DC for these different events,

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so proudly I love my flag. As a matter of fact,

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that flag behind me is the flag I had there

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that day. So yeah, at long story short, after that,

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you know, the day ends and everybody goes home. I

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think I was inside the building for ninety seconds. I

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got up to one of the doors, peered in, walked,

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you know, got inside a little bit. They were already

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kind of pushing people out, said okay, turn around, no

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hostile confrontations with police or anything. Uh, and walk back

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out and just hung around with holding my flag. That

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was it, And for that I got treated like the

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worst of terrorists. Amused by the ways I'm described in

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the investigative documents that I have, I think they call

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me an anti government extremist tier level one known terrorist

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encounters when going to the airports, I visit family over

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out out of the country, so I can't say it's

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too insulting to me. I rather see that as pissing

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off the right people. It's like, you know, I did

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nothing wrong, you know, and now that we know what

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we know more further about it, it's like, I definitely

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didn't do anything wrong, because it was it was an entrapment,

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So not to go too far down that rabbit hole,

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but anyway, yeah, that was kind of my involvement there.

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They came and arrested me in July of twenty three.

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Swat the full swat. I mean, my neighbors have never

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seen anything like this before. I don't know who's more traumatized,

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me or them. Wow, And it was. It was a

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grotesque show of force. I think more for the intimidation

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of people observing than for the actual target, because they're

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trying to send a message. All of this is extreme excess.

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There's no reason for that. There's no reason they couldn't

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have somebody come up, say you two guys come to

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the door, say hey, we'd like to ask you a

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few questions about your involvement here. But you know why

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they were using swat on you know, seventy plus year

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old grandma here and this family with little kids, because

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it's intimidation. And so you know, when they come to

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my house, I can show you this here like that.

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This is from yeah, yeah, yeah, and this is just

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from that point of view from the window. They had

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a whole lot more vehicles there and shut down pretty

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much a large part of this town. It's like, are

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you guys serious? Yeah. The the excessive use of show force.

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I've never had so many guns pointed at me in

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my life.

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And that's the unfortunate thing is that, you know, I mean,

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we hear about them rolling up on people, you know,

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early dawn raids. You know, guns blazing, shocking off of

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your neighbors, grenades, flash bang grenades being thrown, people's carpets

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being burned, the ripping off of cameras off their off

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of the house. You know, it's it's all, it was

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all there for they.

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Go up taping people's cameras. It begs the question, what

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what are you hiding? When I came back to my

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house after I got really, I never did any jail time.

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It was it was a dragged out process though, but

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you know, I find all my stuff unplugged. My house

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was a wreck, and unfortunately the night before I had

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just got done cleaning the house, so they turned my

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house upside down. I had in my room closed from

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this drawer all the way across the room over here.

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My office was torn apart, my living room was torn apart,

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my basement. Mean, they took every single corner of this

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house and flipped it upside down.

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Oh my goodness, it was. It's ridiculous, absolutely, Josha. I

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want to hand it to you and and have you

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tell us a little bit of your story.

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All right, Well, thank you so much. Uh J six

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friends out there. How's it going, guys. Nice meeting you guys.

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I'm from you know, Houston, Texas, Mexican American, first generation born.

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A lot of stuff brought me to the uh Trump

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parade and all that, how it was happening.

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I was a big Trump flan.

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I kind of felt I didn't fall to the propaganda

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of who he was, but I never really paid attention.

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But that's all you hear, is all you know? Trump

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did Trump that. If I don't hear from the from

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from the man's mouth itself. I kind of don't don't

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take a lot of things count for anybody. It's always

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I didn't hear from their mouth, you know, I take

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it with a grain of salt. Then I started watching,

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you know, the Trump videos, and I was like, oh man,

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you know, we all see how they words.

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So I was like, you know what, let me just go.

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It's my first time ever being political in this uh

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you know see what it's about. Went from Houston down

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to Drove. At the time was with my two girlfriend.

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We were in relationship for two months. We are married now.

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I did nineteen years and federal I mean, I'm sorry,

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nineteen months in federal prison.

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The last six months.

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Were in solitary confinement, and I was I've been on

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probation for five months now as of the partner I

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have been, you know, no longer restrict by.

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The DOJ's of custody. There was a lot of stuff

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I saw that day. I can't wait till a lot

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of us more come out. I was in there.

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I had the judges and the prosecutor gas like me onto,

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you know, thinking my time of events didn't happen as

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they said it happened. So I gave him the benefit

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of that out at the time, his first time ever

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being in court. I let my attorney to smooth talk

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to me into saying, well, I got you within the guidelines.

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You know, twenty four months. You know it is a

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good deal. Take it.

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So a long story short. You know, I see some

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of the evidence that they showed me. It was very

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bad pixelated quality. But you know, nonetheless, they were showing

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me the lookers what you did and X, Y and Z,

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and I gave them my side of the story on well, actually, yes,

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so they got me with assaulting an office. But I

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was saying like, yeah, I mean I touched him, but

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I was actually helping him because he was being smushed.

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But they would just pause it at the moment I

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made contact and they said that's an assault. So mind you,

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this happened the other day. All this, you know, since

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I was a resident twenty two once it was incarcerated

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in twenty three. This whole time I let them, I

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believe kind of what their viewpoint of what happened. I

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was like, okay, you know what, maybe adrenaline, what do

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you want to call it? I'm confusing my timelines on

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how long I was in there things like.

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That, because he said the judge.

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I remember distinctly the judge saying, you weren't You're not

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a follower, you were going not just for the emotion,

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but you were a leader because you were number fourteen

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inside the building.

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And I was like, oh, wow.

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Number fourteen. I didn't think I was that high up there,

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but I mean it could have been. I mean, it

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was one of the first breaches within the Capitol and

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I went through a busted window, so I was like maybe,

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I mean, I wasn't counting.

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Maybe, I mean, it could be right, I don't know.

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I go back in for the first time after this

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all these years, I was able to actually go to

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stop haete dot com and view all the footage for

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myself and high quality, and I sat there for about

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thirty minutes just realizing that I did nineteen months in

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federal prison for a lie. Everything that they showed me

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was out of context, misrepresented, and then just blade out

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lies from the judges mounted himself.

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For instance, number fourteen.

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He made his whole sentencing off of the idea premise

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of I was number fourteen in the building. When I

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go back and look at it, I was like number

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three hundred in the building, so it's like, I mean,

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that's a big discrepancy on what you're trying to say,

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or if you're calling me number fourteen on record a

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bunch of stuff. I try to make some money in prison.

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I was ranting cell phones out for people's usage. It

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was four dollars an hour ranting our cell phones. It

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worked out for a while. I did it for about

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five months until people from another prison came and realized

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that I was what they called an independent, where I

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wasn't running with a gang or my race.

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I was just independent.

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And since independence don't have back in, they went ahead

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and you know, beat.

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The dog crap out of me and took on stuff.

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So that's why I end up saying spending my last

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six months in the hole because obviously I was all

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beat up and I was like, I fell.

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Off the bed and they're like, uh no, you're that's

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you know you have.

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You have a debt, that's an obvious death threat, so

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we can't let you go out in uh general pop.

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I was supposed to get transferred apparently, but.

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Coming from this guard called the s I S whatever

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it stands for, but he kind of that's the officer

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within the prison that I guess is a detective to

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see what happens. Uh, they have a process. The whole

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process was thrown out the window. I seen him four

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months later. Uh, and he goes, look, Bud, I'm gonna

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keep it to you straight. The powers that be that

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are above you and I they want you in this,

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in this cell until you leave to go home. You go,

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so go sit down, and you got two months left

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because I don't know why no one told.

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You, but yeah, So I was like, oh cool.

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So I've been in this military confinement for four months,

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one phone call every thirty days, and just to find

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out It's like, okay, now we're you know, I don't

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know who dropped the ball, but yeah, someone should have

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told you you're going to be in here for six

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months straight. So it was a bunch of stuff, but

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now made it out. You know, a lot of good

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stuff has happened. One of the best things is since

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January sixth, nine months to the date my son was born,

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So congratula and then we had one right behind that.

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So when I went to prison, my son was a

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year and three months and my daughter was three months.

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But we picked off like nothing like we never skipped

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the beat on everything is just you know, God's have

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his ways of showing patience to some people. Maybe that

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was his way of showing me I needed to patience

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and just sit down in the corner, read the Bible

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and just realize that everything's in good hand. It was,

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so I guess that it was one of God's ways

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to you know, put me where I needed to be

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put in order for him to do his work so

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I can stop stressing in the free world because I

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always was a twenty four to seven work would be

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and you know, put him in in prison is the

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complete opposite of trying to work. So everything worked out,

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and I feel like it was just God's way of

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showing me use this event to show how much I

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can trust him.

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So it's been a good has been overall, not too bad. Wow,

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a deep state And yeah, they need to be.

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Held accountable, Oh yeah, for sure. I'm those are just

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amazing stories and and again I'm I'm grateful that you

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came on to to share those with us, because there

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are so many people who were rounded up and put

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in prison for for things and and we know that

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you know, they they took people's you know ability to

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have discovery. They took their you know, their their materials

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that they had. They were putting people in solitary confinement,

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they were torturing them. I mean, it was horrendous and egregious,

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just weaponization of a of a department of justice against

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its own people. But I want to kind of talk

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a little bit about the the elephant in the room boom,

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because we still have political prisoners who have been pardoned

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by President Trump and they're still in prison today. Jeremy

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Brown is in Atlanta, Georgia. Dominic Box is in Tallahassee, Florida,

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Daniel Ball is in Marion County, Florida, Benjamin Martin is

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in California, Edward Kelly is in Blount County, Tennessee, and

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Taylor Toronto is in a DC goolag. I want to

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throw it out to you all. There are many calls

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to action, numbers to call being posted by Suzanne Monk

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and others. We're scrolling those. I want people to take

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the time today to make phone calls reach out, but

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I want to get your thoughts and your insights. What

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you'd like to see, maybe if there's any elected official listening,

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what you'd like them to hear Steven, I'll throw it

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to you first.

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All right, Well, I bet her tread carefully here. No,

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it's it's it's very frustrating. I have to say, I

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think most of my sentiment is on behalf of other people,

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because relatively speaking, I didn't suffer as much as some

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of the other people have, and my heart breaks for

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those that have. I don't want to drop names, but

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I know I've met quite a few people through this journey.

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It's been an amazing trail. I have to echo what

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A said over there that this has been very god driven.

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And I have to say a quick parenthesis here. I

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really believe the last four years, as terrible as they've

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been for the country and for US J sixers and

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for everyone in their own perspective way, they've been the

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greatest gift this country ever had. Why do I say that,

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because we would have never had the victory we had

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this time if we had if we had actually won

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in twenty twenty, which we did. But so this exposed

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was a lot in Washington and in the government as

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a whole that the nation is now very aware of.

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So I'm grateful for that, and I'm sadden that you know,

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a lot of people, innocent people are the subjects of

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a lot of abuse, but we are the instruments part

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of that that have that have awoken awaken. Withether word

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is the nation. Okay, the nation's awaken is aware now,

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so I'm grateful for that. But yes, I definitely want

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to see compensation. Nothing will ever be able to give

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back the time that people had taken from them rotting

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in prison for some cases years, for the last all

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of the four years, and everybody in between. Nothing's ever

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going to undo the trauma that some people have experienced

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of having weapons pointed at them that they've never some

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of them have never seen before. I'm ann add firearms enthusiast.

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I train often, I'm used to this stuff, but you know,

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it's not when you have a little kid that has

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a rifle pointed at their face. That is unacceptable. And

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I have to echo what I heard Cash say the

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other day in his hearing that not all of the

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FBI is bad. I do believe that. I don't think

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every single FBI agent out there is bad. But I

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also can't excuse from the level on the street to

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the top the excessive action that they took so I

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can't really say much, not being in that position. But

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my question is, you know, does nobody have the sense

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to say this isn't right? I'm not going along with this.

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As far as the actual agents on the ground that

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came to our houses and did what they did, did

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they believe in what they were doing or were they

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just simply following orders?

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If?

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There's a lot of questions I have. So that's one

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issue I have. You know, I don't want to say

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that I want to get everybody back for what they did. No,

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but I think there has to be an appropriate response

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and an answer at each level, from the guys on

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the ground to the one giving the orders that we

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know who that was. That one has to get the

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heaviest consequences the most absolutely, and then on the way

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down respective to their position and their course of actions.

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So I would like to see I know there's a

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lot of people talking about lawsuits and stuff like that.

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I'm not I don't have one opinion one or the other.

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I would I don't know. Amount of money is going

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to fix that. That's what I mean by that. No

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amount of money is going to fix the problems that

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these people have, The injuries, that these people have inflicted

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on all of us. Yeah. You know, if people get

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paid out so much money, okay, great, they can you know,

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rebuild their lives and so on, but you can't get

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rid of the memories and the trauma that was inflicted

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on us unjustifiably, unjustifiably. Okay.

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So that's absolutely right, you know. I mean, that's that

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is the most egregious part. And we're going to talk

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a little bit about that. But Cindy, let me throw

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this to you. Because President Trump fired all of the

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J six prosecutors. Of course, Biden did the same thing

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when he was, you know, coming in all of Trump's

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Air USA attorneys. You know, he asked him to resign.

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So it's not partisan, but he's draining the deep state

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swamp and he's really freeing up the future of those

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eighty eight FBI agents who rated mar Lago and removing

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the fifty one spies that lied their security clearance. I

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call it a good start. But what are your thoughts

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on that, Cindy.

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Yeah, I think it is a good start, but it's

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not in fo what we need. When I was listening

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to President Trump the day of the inauguration, I was

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hopeful that he was going to talk about Junior Gary

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sixth during his speech, which he chose not to. And

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I really I don't want to sound ungrateful for the part,

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because I am grateful for the party, but that was

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a point in time where the country was paying attention

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and the country could have started to hear the truth

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about the narrative around January.

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We really need a whole investigation. We need accountability for

469
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the people that were involved in setting this thing up

470
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:24.079
because it was a setup, and we're not done until

471
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:25.480
they face it. Dountability.

472
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.519
Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. And from what I understand,

473
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.319
there's going to be a new J sixth committee. We've

474
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:38.119
already heard from a couple of the House of Representatives,

475
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:42.440
the congressional members who are like, buckle up. And I think,

476
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:47.279
you know, we're hearing about the pipe bomber, who the

477
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.640
one on J six not J five, who is like

478
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:54.400
this and he was in playing clothes from the you know,

479
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:59.559
from he was a police officer. We're already hearing things

480
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.359
that we go we got to go back and rehash

481
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.079
that whole thing all over again. Joshua, I want to

482
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:10.519
throw it to you. Any insights that you have about

483
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.480
the brothers who are still in prison, or you know,

484
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:19.480
Trump just going through and kind of leveling that playing

485
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.440
field with the with the d o J there in

486
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.960
the FBI. And and again I agree with Steven, they're

487
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.359
good FBI people who are on the ground. We're talking

488
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.119
about the leadership here, We're not talking about the everyday

489
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:32.759
average guy.

490
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:33.720
Correct.

491
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:36.000
Yeah, I mean there's are some some things that I

492
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.519
agree with. One thing is, yes they were pardon but

493
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:43.559
I really hope that this comes to show, uh the

494
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.839
amount of power that the criminal justice system has. Now

495
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.119
in some cases, I believe it's worth it.

496
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.640
And I did it. I spoke with a few people

497
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:53.000
I know.

498
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.519
Some of them are being held on retainers because they

499
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.160
might have a traffic ticket or a fine, stuff like that.

500
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:01.039
So they are part then they are in the process

501
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.759
of these But once another side picks it up that

502
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.720
he might he didn't pay for a passive stop signed

503
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:09.960
you know, two years ago, and he never is it

504
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.480
was a fine, he didn't have to report, that's when

505
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:13.160
those things.

506
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.240
Catch up and get you.

507
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.680
I feel like that that is not fair when somebody

508
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.039
you know has already either a done their time, be

509
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.599
on their way out, or you know, like a pardon. Uh,

510
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.759
but if you're wanted by somewhere else because of a crime,

511
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:27.960
that's a whole different story, you know.

512
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.440
I get that, But I don't feel that the justice system.

513
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.160
I think that they're just catching bad publicity because of

514
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.759
these issues that hey, you know, yeah, we part of

515
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.400
them and we don't have no problem let them go.

516
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.880
But because of random circumstances with fines or whatever the

517
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.559
case may be, now we're they're getting the you know,

518
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:50.799
the bad side of publicity about it, which is good

519
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:52.359
on their end, because I feel like, you know, it

520
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.119
does need some reform.

521
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.200
About the FBI agents.

522
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.279
I believe that here's my understanding, im I under standing

523
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.759
is I was surveiled for eight months before I was arrested.

524
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.880
The amount of intelligence that is gathered between that that

525
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.119
time frame should equate.

526
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.519
To the amount of response on what they're going to

527
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.640
come to your front door on the day of arrest.

528
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.000
Them watching me going to the grocery store, working six

529
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.559
days a week and spending time with my family, I

530
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.960
think does not justify the level of commitment that they

531
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.599
that they went with on the artillery that they came with.

532
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.839
It doesn't make sense to me on how that adds

533
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.400
up as a reasonable response.

534
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.200
So I do believe that a lot of them are

535
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:37.920
good people.

536
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.240
I feel like, you know, we probably don't agree on

537
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:42.559
a lot of things, but I think, you know, in general,

538
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.839
they don't want to hurt nobody and they are good. However,

539
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.960
I feel like that they have been comfortable with receiving

540
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:54.079
higher up commands and just going it about it as

541
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.359
they as they seem fit, because they know that there's

542
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.640
no drawback on them. How it's all set up is,

543
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:02.759
you know, it's who's in charge of this, They get

544
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.680
the ear full of it, and it's just it's a

545
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:10.519
it's a just a recycling system of pointing fingers. So

546
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.759
I feel like that there needs to be a behind

547
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:16.200
the scenes training of, hey, you know, why are we

548
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.640
spending all this tax money on the eight month operation

549
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.799
of this guy who we could just send two cops

550
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.640
backing and like Stevenson about, Hey, let's call a question

551
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.119
these guys real quick. You don't have to send you know,

552
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.039
SWAT Team one through seven just to come arrested guy.

553
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.440
So there's a bunch.

554
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.799
Of stuff that I felt was out out of the picture.

555
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.319
But there's a there's a there's a lot of layers to.

556
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:40.759
This, and I feel like there's just so many things

557
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.440
that all needs to be talked about and which I

558
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.640
think is gonna happen because now we are I don't

559
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.359
know about any other Jay sixers, but I was restricted

560
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.000
from speaking about the j sixth event in certain ways,

561
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.279
all types of stuff.

562
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:55.079
And this goes back to.

563
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.839
Why like the non disclosure like they made non disclosure.

564
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.000
No, they just said it wouldn't help you be helpful

565
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:05.000
to your case if you continue talking and keep saying

566
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.319
your political hostage. Your probation office is not gonna like that,

567
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.279
because that's kind of already a strike. They just worded

568
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.759
things very very against me on in different in different ways.

569
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.720
Even when I was going to my sentence, they brought

570
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.319
up the fact that I still believe that I was

571
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.319
a victim of January. Apparently that sit well with the judge,

572
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.000
so they have said multiple times to tweak how I speak.

573
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.559
But now that I'm free, I would like to say

574
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.440
this is gonna be intentional.

575
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.400
First, because this is the first time'm going to say

576
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:36.079
this publicly.

577
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:38.440
There were some things that I seen in January sixth

578
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.319
that are very very we A lot of J sixers

579
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.359
need to get together and just say what we saw

580
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.279
that day. I have been in contact with two other people,

581
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.400
and there's a very prominent figure of the January sixth defendant.

582
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.519
And I'm not going to put some on anybody's name

583
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.839
because I have no facts. I just just had random

584
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.519
conversations that we weren't even looking for this.

585
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.759
It's just hey, I was here at this time. Did

586
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.920
you see this guy? Actually kind of have an idea.

587
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:06.640
You know, we're because we're trying to figure out where

588
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.759
where we were each other at at certain timesh And

589
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.359
he said, he goes, that's funny you saw him because I.

590
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:18.279
Said, oh, froze, Ace, I think for frozen. I have something.

591
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:19.960
Good.

592
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.200
Go ahead, Yes, I'm here.

593
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:26.240
I'm sorry, no problem. You just froze out there for

594
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.160
a second. Cindy, you had something you wanted to say.

595
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.720
Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, I agree

596
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.119
about the FBI, that they're not all bad. But at

597
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.519
my trial, I had two fbis that had taken a

598
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.920
son against me. They sat at the prosecution table during

599
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.799
the whole trial. They assisted the prosecution in selecting the jury.

600
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.640
They have these little phones that they talk on with

601
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.079
the judge went instead of going up to the bench,

602
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.680
they get on the phones and they played this white

603
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.680
noise every time that they went on the phone and

604
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.039
discuss things. The FBI agent would get on the phone

605
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:11.200
the other FBI agent. Now, when you testify, you're usually

606
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.240
custered out of the courtroom so that you don't hear

607
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:15.720
other people's testimony.

608
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.079
They both sat in the courtroom, the entire tribe, listening

609
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.559
to each other's testimony. So there's a lot of stuff

610
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.559
that's going on.

611
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:27.759
I mean, my attorney one of the things he likes

612
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.680
to show is The Simpsons, and it has duff duff

613
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.440
light and defugh fac sure, and it's all coming from

614
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.039
the same pipe. And that's what we're dealing with with

615
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.119
our justice system. They're all in one bed together.

616
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.599
No, you're totally and completely correct. And I've often said

617
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:48.799
we know that there. You know, it came out in

618
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:53.000
the report. There were confidential human sources. Who's surprised. I mean,

619
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.119
I think we all you know said it like day

620
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.920
one and yeah, and so it's like the FBI, So

621
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.519
it's like, but what about this? I mean, you know,

622
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:05.519
there's things that we still don't know, you know, But

623
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.760
just today it broke that the FBI agents have filed

624
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.880
a class action lawsuit to block the Trump DOJ from

625
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.480
compiling a list of officials who worked on J six

626
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.800
or Jack Smith's get Trump cases. What are they hiding?

627
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.440
I don't know, but I think if they are innocent,

628
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.920
they need to just relax. I believe that this is

629
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.039
really geared toward the FBI leaders because they knew they

630
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:38.559
were going overboard intentionally. I think this was a clear

631
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.000
purge to round up the Trump supporters. You know, I

632
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.800
don't know who else sees it differently, but why else

633
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.280
would they use something like five thousand of their personnel,

634
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:55.719
FBI personnel, including air marshals, to follow anyone who was

635
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.159
in Washington, d C. On J six rather than keeping

636
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.199
the skies, Or why would Matthew Graves vow to go

637
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.920
after people who were simply on the grounds they didn't

638
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.800
go into the building except to put the boot of

639
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.400
tyranny on the next of the political opponents and silence

640
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.360
those voices. Cindy, I'll throw it to you first and

641
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.320
let you kind of kick that off. Anything you have

642
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:22.599
on that anytime.

643
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:23.239
Yeah.

644
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.079
Well, the thing that they held against me, mostly at trial,

645
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.800
like Ace was saying, was the things I said on podcasts,

646
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.400
the things I posted on my social media. They went through.

647
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:39.440
They locked down my Facebook right after January sixth. They

648
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:43.159
calmbed through everything that I had. They made notes, they

649
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.760
took notes, and.

650
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.639
They would say the things to inflame the jury about me.

651
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:50.000
You know, I had.

652
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.480
Said some things. I said some things about Mike Pence.

653
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.880
I said, I said this place needs a good saging

654
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.039
when I walked through the Capitol, and they thought that

655
00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:58.840
was horrific.

656
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.119
They kept talking about.

657
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.639
That, but like say, just it's it smells good.

658
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.000
It releases evil spirits, which are definitely.

659
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.000
Oh gotcha, Okay.

660
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.239
Yeah, I want to take more than a stage to

661
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:17.840
clean that.

662
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:24.440
Right, right, I mean, Steven, this is ridiculousness. This is

663
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.119
over the top. And now they want to say no, no, no, no, no,

664
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.079
don't you know, don't come looking at us. This is retribution,

665
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.320
but this is actually getting a corrected timeline, getting accountability,

666
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.159
getting justice. They took sixteen hundred people and they you know,

667
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:48.199
persecuted them, and they went after them, and not just then,

668
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:49.800
they went after their families.

669
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.599
They used us as political pawns for their little chess game.

670
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.079
And now beyond January sixth, what's being uncovered in the

671
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.400
government with the u U said stuff and all this

672
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.239
other thing, all these other things that we're finding out.

673
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:08.519
The hysteria from the higher ups only shows that it

674
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.880
highlights exactly who the problems are. And I think another

675
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.519
irony too is all of the people that Joe Biden

676
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.719
pardoned again, he's shining a spotlight on who we need

677
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.519
to be focusing. So he's actually doing us a favor

678
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.119
in that sense. Yeah, maybe some of them won't go

679
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.719
to jail for that, but we can certainly put them

680
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:34.159
into financial oblivion. That these people cannot be allowed to

681
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.000
just walk away from this. They think that, you know,

682
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.000
we're peasants and they're the elite, and you know, oh,

683
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.800
I'm immune into the law. Absolutely not. And now that

684
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.280
the country's angry about it, now they're freaking out, Oh, well,

685
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.840
this is illegal and you can't do this. And I mean,

686
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.239
I'm generalizing a lot because there's so much of this

687
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.440
going on, it's hard to pick one or the other.

688
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.440
So I like the quote that says when the when

689
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.400
the people fear government, there is tyranny. But when the

690
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.239
government fears the people, there is freedom. And so we

691
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.480
absolutely need to hold on to that and live by it.

692
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:11.119
And they need to understand that if you do certain things,

693
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:15.159
or if you violate the law, the standing laws, not

694
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.519
things that we just fabricated because you're violating my rights

695
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.320
or something I made up. No, no, there's an actual

696
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:24.880
established law and they're violating it. One of those being entrapment,

697
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.880
which you're not allowed to do. And it's exactly what

698
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.559
January sixth was the largest entrapment scheme ever executed for

699
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.760
political gain. So yes, absolutely people need to pay a

700
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.519
heavy price for what happened. And you know, I can

701
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.719
get creative and what that looks like. I don't. I'm

702
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.480
not a you know, a person and law and justice,

703
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.960
but you know, not dancing too far past what's cruel

704
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.760
and unusual punishment. But sitting in a jail cell is

705
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.159
not enough. You know, people need to feel a pain

706
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.280
for what they inflicted on us. So whether that's financial,

707
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.559
whether it's just you know, putting them out for the

708
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.039
whole world to see what they really are, which is

709
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.840
criminals and thugs. That's what they are. They're a bunch

710
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.559
of suit and tie or for the women in their

711
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.960
fancy clothes, thugs and they're and their bullies and the

712
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.280
problem is no one has ever pushed back against them,

713
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.199
at least not very hard for very long. But now

714
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.360
we are, and now they're freaking out. Oh no, what

715
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.000
do we do? We can't let we can't let this

716
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.159
get out of control. Guess what, you You created this

717
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.000
storm and now you're upset about it.

718
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.960
So you know, that's exactly what was.

719
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.880
It that Schumer told the justices, which, by the way,

720
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.719
he should be facing charges for threatening Supreme Court breath

721
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.000
the whirlwind? So can I use his own words against

722
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.000
him in that aspect? The Democrats created this and they're

723
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.320
going to reap the consequences for it. Now there are consequences,

724
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:45.519
you know.

725
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.039
Yeah.

726
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.199
The Bible says the way of the wicked is hard,

727
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.599
the way of a transgressor is difficult.

728
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:58.480
So you know, here we are, Amen, Amen, I've got

729
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.679
I've got a few minutes here. I want to throw

730
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.920
it out to you guys and let you give kind

731
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.599
of your you know, I mean, you know, a time

732
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.400
of whatever you want people to know, if you've got

733
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.480
to give saying go, if if you've got you know,

734
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.079
a website, if you've got something you'd like to say.

735
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.239
We've got five minutes, so I'll give everybody like you know,

736
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.719
a minute and a half here, Joshua, I'll start with you.

737
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:28.800
Thank you guys. Yeah, if any if anything, shout out.

738
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:34.239
To APR American Patriot leief, shout out to our our

739
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.400
our friend and who is now in a better place.

740
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.159
Ashley bab At, her mom opened up her doors to

741
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.480
me when I was left out of January or out

742
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.519
of prison. They left me homeless in DC by by

743
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.360
the DJ's choice. But Ashley's mom stood up, helped one

744
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.000
towards Jay Sixers out so we wouldn't be left to

745
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.440
a homeless shelter. And you know, the American people has

746
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.239
been by my side more than government has when it

747
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.239
comes to aid and financial there's the American people that

748
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.920
have been next to us.

749
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.159
And helping us this entire way too.

750
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:13.440
If anybody is looking to do startup work for business,

751
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.519
if they need advertisings or anything done, that's my new

752
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.760
niche of what I've been working on, not making what I.

753
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.000
Used to uh before uh prison.

754
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.519
I'm still making it, but you know where you know,

755
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.280
there's always room, So right now I'm picking.

756
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:28.880
Up that side niche.

757
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.920
So if anybody needs platforms made as far as videos

758
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.000
or online stores.

759
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:35.320
You know, just give me a call. I have a

760
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.679
gifts gift saying go if anybody guys wants to tell

761
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.280
Nate Josh.

762
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:43.559
Or Hernandez gift singo or it's a MAGA Bucks with

763
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.360
a z on cash app m A g A b

764
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.639
k's people in prison loved that one.

765
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:55.159
I kept it wonderful, Steven, I'll I'll throw it to you.

766
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.360
Well, I don't have much of a website and my

767
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.280
gifts that so I close it out after everything. So yeah,

768
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.239
I'm I'm kind of in a in a tough spot myself.

769
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.000
Also financially, I'd say get in contact with me directly

770
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.119
if people feel inclined to help someone's out. And there's

771
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.320
a lot of us, uh, there's there are so many

772
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.960
to even name, so you know, look look for people

773
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.159
in your area's perspective, areas folks, and and see who

774
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.360
you can help out. We're not bad folks, regular Americans,

775
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.880
and the government tried to crush us, so we're feeling

776
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.920
really a huge weight on our shoulders. Uh, and emotionally financially,

777
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.840
you know, I'm speaking in general. So for me, if

778
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.920
people want to contact me, I am on telegram at

779
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.519
at Ondolage I use x here also same name at Ondolich,

780
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.480
and I don't have any websites. Also similar to Josh there,

781
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.639
I'm I'm dabbling in graphic design and stuff like that.

782
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.800
So if people want around here in the Pennsylvania area

783
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.039
or wherever you're at, if you need anything like that,

784
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.760
kind of like him, I'm kind of going by that

785
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.880
way as well, and I could do a lot of

786
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.599
other things. Yeah, that's pretty much all I.

787
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.400
Have, Cindy, I'll throw it to you.

788
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.039
Yeah, all I have right now is my gifts and

789
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:10.039
go and the government, you know, did a great job

790
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.679
at destroying me on every level being an older person.

791
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.320
I had a business that I had invested everything that

792
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.320
I had. It was my dream business. And I lost

793
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.280
that business because I knew that going to jail, I

794
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.159
wouldn't be able to afford to keep the business and

795
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:33.119
maintain my home, which also I came close to giving

796
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.000
up as well had I gone to prison. So now

797
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:40.119
I'm trying to rebuild my life, and I will say

798
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.840
this is what I tell people. My life is nowhere

799
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:46.559
near what it was four years ago. So you know,

800
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.880
I just had my luck is like crazy luck. My

801
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.920
car I had held on to getting stuff done on

802
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:56.440
my car because I didn't know if I was going

803
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.760
to go to jail. Well, I brought my car in

804
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.679
and they take one thing off, they find another, and

805
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.679
twenty five hundred dollars later, it's like done. You know,

806
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.880
your car is done and it's fixed. But twenty five

807
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.079
hundred dollars was all I have to my name, And

808
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.360
I told the guy, I said, that's all I can

809
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.239
give you, you know. So wow.

810
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.840
It's a journey and you all need a lot of prayer,

811
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:28.360
and we are so grateful that you came on today. Cindy, Steven, Joshua,

812
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.079
thank you. We want to get back in touch with you.

813
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.159
We want everybody to follow you on your platforms, your gifts,

814
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.079
saying go. It has been a blessing to be with

815
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.920
you all today. Remember that resistance is not futile and

816
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.400
blessings to you all.

817
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:45.320
Blessings to you.

818
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:24.119
It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

819
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.239
let's beak intention right