Jan. 24, 2025

Life-Threatening!

Life-Threatening!

The heartbreaking reality of what was and is being experienced by those who received the Covid hospital protocols.

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The heartbreaking reality of what was and is being experienced by those who received the Covid hospital protocols.

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Any health related information on the following show provides general

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It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's speak.

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Intention Hello and welcome to Intentional. I'm your host, Nick Meel.

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Thank you all for joining us here on W FOURHC

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grateful for your support. Now, are you ready, because it

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is time for us to stand up, speak out, get involved,

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and let's be intentional. Ladies and gentlemen. Here on Intentional,

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we have focused on the fight against medical tyranny which

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we saw occur during COVID. We have been bringing you

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stories of those who suffered from the treacherous and deadly

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COVID hospital protocols and the mRNA injections and the loved ones,

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families and friends those who did not survive. However, something

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that we really need to focus on and talk about

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is the need for the extreme therapies, including artificial life

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support interventions that included the extra corporeal membrane oxygenation known

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as EKMO, which is basically the use of a device

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it's a membrane oxygenator or an artificial lung to pump

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the blood outside the body allowed to be artificially oxygenated

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and then have the carbon dioxide removed and then the

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blood is pumped back into the body as well as

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lung transplants that were being done. While these therapies have

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a necessary place in medicine, they are life saving. I

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saw this firsthand. The concern is why have the significantly

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intensive therapies become necessary and the extent of their use

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for a stars cove two virus. Let me put this

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in perspective. A study done by JAMMA in twenty twenty

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two revealed that in two years, more than ten thousand,

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five hundred patients that were COVID positive were put on EKMO,

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with a report in twenty twenty two by the Clinical

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Test Medicine finding a mortality rate of fifty six percent

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for the International Extra Corporeal Life Support Organization or ELSO

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for patients on EKMO between September of twenty twenty and

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March of twenty twenty one. Compare this to influenza, where

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the Pediatric Critical Care Medicine did a study in twenty

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sixteen on the use of ECHMO four influenza and it

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cited that between nineteen ninety two and twenty fourteen, out

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of the sixty one thousand, three hundred and thirty six

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ECMO runs reported by the ELSO, only one thousand, six

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hundred and eighty eight, or three percent, were due to influenza. Now,

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as far as lung transplants, according to the Clinical Trust

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Medicine published in twenty twenty two, between August of twenty

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twenty and September of twenty twenty one, they found COVID

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nineteen related lung transplants made up seven percent of all

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lung transplants, and of the two hundred and fourteen that

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were COVID related lung transplants, they were identified as sixty

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five percent that were performed for acute respiratory distress syndrome

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that was associated with COVID and the remaining were performed

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for post covid fibrosis. This, in my opinion, is a

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significant finding validating why we need to have conversations, investigations,

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and an extensive review into the origins of COVID and

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every aspect, including the need for artificial life support interventions

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to parse out is it virus or is COVID truly,

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in my belief, a bioweapon that was released upon the world. Today,

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we have two very special guests. They are at different

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ends of the spectrum. Nya Brown, she is a nurse.

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Her husband David was admitted for COVID and put on EKMO.

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He did not survive and our hearts are broken for her.

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And then Jeff Nattel, he was put on EKMO and

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he survived. Now, before we bring them in, I want

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us to watch a couple full of clips that were

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provided by Jeff and Naya for background.

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Within basically an hour, everything changed for me. I went

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from being this unvaxed person who was getting put through

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this protocol unknowingly, even with my refusals all the way

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through no inform consent on anything, to all of a sudden,

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the CEO of the hospital was calling my wife telling

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her to get into the room. How soon can you

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get down here. The doctor Schwartz was not on shift

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on the twenty first that his wife was. He took

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over my care when he was off. So my wife

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was talking to her. The cardiothorastic surgeon at Mayo's good

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friends of ours. They called and she did a three

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way with the doctor and she goes get him on ECHMO.

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And she knew that if I was not doing well,

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there's nowhere to go after the event except for ECHMO.

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And it was early enough, and I did we didn't

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do it, then there was going to be no chance

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to even get on CHMO. And I guess from what

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the doctors were saying, and instantly they all of a sudden,

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everybody's agreeing to do everything. So within an hour, I'm

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getting transferred out of the hospital. My wife goes in

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there and doctor Schwartz obviously got called in by the

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CEO to come in there, and he starts, you know,

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heading my wife's hand as she said, she she pulls away. Hees,

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everything's fine, everything's we're fine, right, And she says, we

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are not fine, right, And so I get transferred to

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another hospital, which is three miles the other direction from

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my house, about five miles away.

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The life flight.

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My wife thought it was a helicopter, but I think

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it was a helicopter or the ambulance, especially intolans that

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you have to transfer somebody who's in my condition, and

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I think it was the ambulance and to go five

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miles and uh so I get sent over to this

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other hospital. My wife is told by the intake doctor

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who runs Achmo, as well, your husband's probably gonna be

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on CHMO for one hundred and fifty days. At day sixty,

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we're going to have a conversation. And my wife's like,

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what kind of conversation. He goes, well, we're going to

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talk about what we need to do going forward. She's like,

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we're not going to have that conversation right and anyway,

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But all of a sudden, visiting hours don't apply to

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my wife at this new hospital, she's with me sixteen

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eighteen hours a day.

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I ended up being on Echmo.

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For a total of nine days, shortest stint they've ever

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had on Chmo, and they get taken off the event

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the day after they said they would probably have to

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wean me off. That I was recovering so fast that

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they took me off the next day.

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Having game day.

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Living memory.

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Memory memory, if I know.

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Way welcome with me, Niah Brown and Jeff Natal Thank

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you both for being with me today. It is an

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honor to speak to you both.

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Thank you for having me.

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Good to see you, make good to see Aya.

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Thank you to see you.

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Absolutely, I'm so grateful that you're with us, Nia and Jeff.

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My goal today is not to bash these therapies. They

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are beneficial treatments. I saw them used as a nurse,

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and they are truly life saving. But they are extreme,

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and as you heard in my introduction, it is my

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desire to discuss the need to use and the extent

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of use of these intensive and extensive measures. And of

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course I am pushing for investigations into the COVID hospital protocols,

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but also I want that larger thirty thousand foot view

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of COVID itself, because if we don't, then history is

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going to repeat, and I believe it will come back

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with the vengeance. So what I'd like to do is

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take a little bit of time here. I'd like you

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both to tell us your story, and then I'd like

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to extend our conversation out a bit. But Naya, please,

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I would love for you to go first.

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Okay, Well, hello everybody, So my husband. He tested positive

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for COVID on a I think it was a Wednesday,

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and so the following week he wasn't feeling very well.

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He ended up going to the hospital on a Sunday.

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They diagnosed him with double COVID pneumonia, sent him home. Well,

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they did give him some medication, but I can't remember

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exactly what the medication was. I was also sick with COVID,

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but I had very different symptoms from him. So they

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sent him home on a Sunday, told him he had

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double COVID pneumonia. By Tuesday, he still was not feeling well.

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He was actually feeling worse. He went back to the hospital.

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They gave him a break eating treatment and sent him

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on his way. By Thursday, he was completely just you know,

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he couldn't breathe, he was having difficulty just doing any

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little thing. And I remember he sat on the side

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of the bed and he told me, they're going to

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kill me, and that's exactly what he said. And he

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went off to the hospital and that was the last

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time that I saw him. This was on a Thursday.

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That was the last time that I saw him at

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our house. And this was at the end of May

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of twenty twenty one. He went in on a Thursday,

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and by Saturday he was intubated, and a few days

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after that they called me and told me that they

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needed to put him, you know, it was an extreme emergency.

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They needed to create and put him on echmo. And

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that was again at the end of May, and he

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was on echmo from May into the day that he

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passed away on October ninth, twenty twenty one. And within

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that timeframe, I was able, you know, I guess I

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consider myself to be a little blessed and lucky because

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I am a nurse in the hospital that he was at.

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I actually had worked there, and I knew some people there.

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And when they excavated him and they were allowing him

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to kind of come too, he wanted to get in

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contact with me, but he couldn't operate his phone. So

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they called me and asked me if I could come

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up there and unlock his phone, and I did, and

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he saw me, and I will never forget to look

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on his eyes. His eyes got really big. He you know,

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was just like, oh my god, you know you're here.

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And so I unlocked his phone. I got to visit

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with him for a little bit. That was around day

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twelve or thirteen. But after he'd seen me and he

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knew that I could come up there, he basically made

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it a point that, you know, like, if you guys

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don't get my wife up here, I'm gonna pull every

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tube out of my body. And so we were on

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a thirty day protocol because he had COVID, they weren't

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letting any visitors come in for like a thirty day protocol.

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But because of that day and because I was a

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nurse and I understood the risks involved with going into

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his room, they allowed me to come up there. And

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I was actually with him from that day forth until

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the day, you know, four months later when he passed away.

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In that timeframe, I saw my husband go through some

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very traumatic and I would say, some extreme treatments and

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like you said, you know, EMO is is you know,

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a life saving treatment that is necessary. But for my husband,

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I wasn't understanding how we got from you know him,

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you know, having double cold pneumonia to being intubated so

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quickly to being on echmo just so quickly. He had

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a lot of difficulties, a lot of blood clotting. We

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had to go you know, from like one antiquagulant to

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the next to the next before they could get it right.

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At one point in time, I would say maybe about

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two I don't know if it was quite two months,

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but maybe about a month and a half after he

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had been on echmo, they told me that he was

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going to need a lung transplant, that his lungs were

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basically there was no movement in his lungs.

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I was there to day his lungs.

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Collapsed on his right lung collapse and they had to

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go and have a thoracic surgeon place a chest tube

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in him. And you know, they basically said that his

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lung was so like stale, maybe there was nothing going on,

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There was no movement.

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They compared it to a watermelon rind.

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When they had to they had to like peel pill

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beings off of his lung just to kind of get

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that chest to be in there. So the next step

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that they thought was you know, adequate for him was

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going to be a lung transplant. And initially they discussed

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the lung transplant, but then it's kind of like that

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the discussion of that kind of died down, and you know,

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you know, giving him medications, you know, uh constantly giving

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him morphine when he wasn't in pain, Constantly giving him

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medications that would cause his blood pressures to drop, and

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then they have to give him, you know, pressures to

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get his blood pressures back up. And you know, as

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we all know, those things are you know, cause your

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cause everything to constrict. So I'm watching his his fingers

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become you know, black, his toes, his feet, and they

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told me in order for him to get a lung transplant,

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he was going to have to start uh p T.

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And at the beginn you know, my husband was very mobile.

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other side of the bed. You know, I watched as

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he did all these things. But you know, now we're

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on a point where he's on dialysis as well, and

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so you know, we have somebody managing the ECMO machine,

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somebody managing the dialysis machine, and then another nurse taking

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care of him.

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Would get up to do his physical therapy, he would

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get so dizzy that he he would just like his

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eyes would roll into the back of his head. He

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would get very hypotensive, and so he wasn't able to

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do physical.

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Therapy in the beginning.

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So we had a kind of I became his advocate

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and I'm like, look, you know, if we're going to

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get to this long transplant, we can't just give up.

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We have to do something. So we started.

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We found a combination of medications that helped him, as

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you know, to be able to do his physical therapy.

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So we got to a point where he was, you know,

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standing up twenty twenty five minutes, you know, parents start

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taking his steps and everything like that. And then so

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now we're all the way into September and he's still

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on echmo, still having issues, still have had lots of

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certain lots of issues. And on September ninth, he did

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physical therapy and I kind of warned the nurse. I'm like, hey,

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you know, his chest tube is kind of dangling. Can

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we make sure that we secure the chest tube? And

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you know, she reassured me like, oh, we'll, you know,

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we'll we'll take care of it. Well, long story short

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with that, the chest tube dislodged and he you know,

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it wasn't like a life emergency or anything like that,

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but they did have to go ahead and put another

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one in which they did at bedside, but when the

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doctor put it in, he calls the hemorrhage. And this

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is a three PM on September ninth. He began to

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hemorrhage and you know, his egg one machine is going off.

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It's like, you know, all the bells and whistles, everybody's

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coming there. And so keep in mind, this is at

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three pm. All they did was continue to just send

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bags of blood up and all the blood did was

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just keep coming out because he's bleeding somewhere. And it

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took them twelve pars before they decided to go in

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and get somebody, you know, call in in evenual radiology,

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somebody to do something about the bleed that he had.

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Because you know, we're not going to uh, we're not

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going to fix the issue by just giving him blood.

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but you know, as I'm watching his monitor, you know,

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I'm watching his h his body is essentially going into shock.

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His blood pressures are down low, his heart rates up,

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everything is just you know, indicating that he's going into shock.

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But he looked at me and said, you know, I'm fine, baby,

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I'm gonna be okay. But I knew, you know, looking

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at the monitors that he was not. So twelve hours later,

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they finally came. They they took him down to surgery,

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you know, got everything taking care of with with the hemorrhage.

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But from that point on, he never really uh got

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back to where he would to the baseline that he

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was at. They put them on like heavy doses of antibiotics,

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which caused him to have massive diarrhea. You know, now

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we're having skin issues. He can't do work out because

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they're not balancing the uh, the output that he's having

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with that with with his dialysis, and so you know,

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now we're not able to do workout, you know, and

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he can't keep anything in.

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Everything is coming out.

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And so you know, we celebrated our seventeenth anniversary on

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September twentieth, and nineteen days later, he passed away because

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his organs, his organs began to shut down. And you know,

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at this point in time, you know, I'm still trying

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to hold on to hope that you know, we could

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make it to the lung transplant. But a part of

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me also understood that, you know, he'd been through so

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much trauma in this last four and a half months that,

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you know. And one of the things that we had

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always talked about even before anything like this happened, that

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if either one of us were ever on life support,

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that we would that we wouldn't try to prolong the

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life support in an effort to be selfish for our parts,

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you know, that we would do the right thing by

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each other.

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And so he basically became.

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Unresponsive, and I knew it was time to go ahead

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and let him go, and so myself, along with his

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parents and his brother and my family, we made a

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decision to turn off his echmo and let him go

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on October ninth, and he passed away at five thirty

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five pm after four and a half months of traumatic

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I was the experiments and experimentation on his body, all

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kinds of different medication.

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Surgeries, you name it. He went through it, and he

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did the best he could to just stay alive. But

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it just it just wasn't to be so. And that's

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his story.

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Oh Nayah, that is just that is just absolutely tragic,

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and my heart does break for you. The one thing

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that I noticed was that he was awake in the

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video that we showed. And the other thing that I

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think was very telling is you said that he was

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he was clawding. They had to go from one anti

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quag lint to another one to a stronger one, and

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so you know that that is is heartbreaking. Jeff, I'd

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like to give you a moment too to to discuss

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your story as well.

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Please, I'll talk about how I do the point where

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I needed to go to go on ECMO one since

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I can recall it, but I also a lot of

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folks and witnesses to it. And I think you know,

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to get to the extreme as you started off mix

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with in regards to how does one get to this

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such an extreme measure? Is I think in in regards

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to the COVID hospital protocol issues is I think the

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most important part is how do we get how do

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they get there? And I think even Nayas said she was,

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you know, couldn't believe how quickly they moved and he

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got to that stage. So kind of maybe give some

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ideas of how that happened. I first symptoms was December

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thirty first, twenty twenty one. I was somebody, didn't have

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any comorbidities, never sick growing up. If I did get sick,

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it was for maybe two days. I'd have the forty

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eight hour kind of bug. Never any chest congestion or issues,

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no lung issues. I wasn't on any medications, nothing like that.

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And a lot of people keep talking about comorbidities that is,

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I think that's just to cover up things, you know.

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But uh so I got sick on the thirty first

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first symptoms. I ended up prolonging not going hospital till

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h of twenty twenty two. I did that because I

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didn't want to go to the hospital. I could get

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better without having to go to the hospital. I knew

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the st I'd heard something I already knew about room

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de severe. I knew about some of these drugs and

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monical and antibodies and whatnot that they were doing in

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the hospitspital. However, got to the point on January fifteenth

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where my pulse socks on my finger. I was reading

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fifty and I knew, dude, that was not good, and

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so I ended I ended up actually getting in the shower, shaving,

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doing all that at fifty so people understand that you

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can still function even at that crazy level, and ended

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up calling my wife. I put myself myself in the

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basement bedroom and told her it's hospital time here running

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across the floor above me, down the steps and a

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Sudency shop. As soon as she saw me, I was blue,

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probably because I couldn't warm up after the shower, and

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she called nine one one and got an ambulance since

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I got to the hospital. Actually as soon as I

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got into the hospital and got my pulse, I remember,

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before we even pulled out, so this had to be

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within a minute or two of me laying down on

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the stretcher and getting oxygen. My oxygen of her, so

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just just getting any oxygen at all jumped it up

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to over eighty pretty quickly. And then once I got

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to the hospital, I told him I want to go

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on event, don't intubate me. I said that every I

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think I said that every single date, every single person

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the first four days, and from what I could tell,

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I didn't have any terrible experiences that I knew of

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at the time with staff, with nurses, the doctors. The

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first thing that came into question is on December. On

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January eighteenth, a nurse and I was very inquisitive of

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what they were giving me because I happened to know

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a little bit about early stage bio tech. For the

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last thirty years, so I knew a lot about certain drugs.

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So I was asking questions about everything. And on the eighteenth,

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the nurse came in hung a bag and I said,

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you know what is that? She said bee and I

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said nope, I'm not taking that. She's like, okay, actually

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in the record my my refusal, and she said, well,

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you're gonna have to talk to the doctor. I said,

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no problem. The doctor came in within about an hour,

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I think hour or so, and before I said a word,

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he was going kind of waving and saying, yeah, it's

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probably too late for you to get room severe. You're

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way past the time that it's where it can be effective.

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And I said, Doc, you and I are in agreement. Yeah,

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there's no need for doing that down. We worked through

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the days, and this was on the eighteenth, so I

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was on day nineteen of symptoms at that time, and

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and so we the agreement we came to is there

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was no upside on the downside for me to take roomsevere.

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So I thought so at that point I thought it

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was over. I'm not I didn't have to worry about it.

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Going back. You look at my record, he doesn't record

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any of that conversation, and all he says in his

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records is that I agreed to room devere So the

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following day, which was January nineteenth, as I had felt

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since probably for a couple of weeks, I could was

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doing better. I was feeling better. I slept well. I

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was able to do the O T and PTS physical

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therapy occupational therapy. I was able to go through both

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of those. Uh, they're tell me I was going to

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be getting out of there soon. I was doing I

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was doing well. But at the exact same time as

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the previous day, nurse comes in hanks back. I said,

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what is it? Said, it's from Desiber. I said, no, no, doctor,

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and I already had this conversation. I am not taking

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that and uh and again on the doctor's right versus

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record show used it. On the doctor's record, it said

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that I had agreed to it. So but a little

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bit I met. Yeah, I just thought that was a

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mix up. But that's all right, because I'm alert, and

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all my notes say I was every single day. It

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said I was alert, conversational, pleasant, and so again I'm any,

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no big deal. Well, what I didn't know which would happen,

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which kind of I think how I got to the

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ECHMO was I was getting heavily sedated the actually the

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previous days on a on X, which you're not supposed

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to be getting more than twenty four hours. I was

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giving it for three straight days, even to the point

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where that the evening of the nineteenth, my doctor came

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in and told me you avoided the vent. You dodged

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a bullet quote unquote, that was his quote infiltrates are better.

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Everything looks everything is looking great. Well, I didn't know

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they were double dosing me on pressed X at the

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same time. Well, pressed X is usually sedative that they

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used for a not understanding it was probably setting me

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being intimate anyway, so literally, so I called my I've

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called some friends. So I was getting getting it out

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of the ICU and getting moved either and you should

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be home pretty soon. And let's just say they created

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an event and they said my oxygen mining and I

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recovered just like I did for OTMPT. This was nothing

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new down into the seventies, and I wouldcover back up.

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And but this time, after I had slowed my breathing,

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the nurse said, well, let me let me give you

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something for the anxiety, and again not know I'd already

468
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.480
got prospects. I got it, I got something else and

469
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.880
I didn't ask, And if I did, I don't remember,

470
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.240
probably because of the drugs of what it was. But

471
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.920
they gave it, gave me a shove my left arm.

472
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.759
From that point, I was to say that I could

473
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.599
feel the effects of all the drugs would be an understatement.

474
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.440
My guess is it was my dad's laand based on

475
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.039
the records from what I could tell, but it's not

476
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.000
a one hundred percent certainty as to what that drug was.

477
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.759
But I remember getting it hurt me, the drug, and

478
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.000
the next thing I know, I'm calling my wife on

479
00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:00.480
FaceTime with the nurse and we're telling my why uh

480
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.880
literally within an hour of me telling me how great

481
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.200
I was doing and I was getting out of there,

482
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.200
and what the doctor said to them saying, yeah, Jeff's

483
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:10.200
gonna get intobated. We're getting ready to put Jeff on

484
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.440
event what she didn't understand what was going on, and

485
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.359
I was so drugged out I couldn't and I didn't understand,

486
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:24.240
really know what was going on. And the interesting part

487
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.880
of the conversation at this time, my wife can see

488
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.720
me because we're on FaceTime, and I wasn't. I wasn't panting,

489
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.039
I wasn't gasping for breath. I didn't even have a

490
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.319
mask on. All I had was a canula, probably a

491
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.359
high flow canule, but I didn't have anything see pap, BiPAP.

492
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.240
I didn't.

493
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.599
My head or barely with my head, and my wife

494
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.160
was confused going on. She's like, I'm coming down there,

495
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.440
And the nurse turned turned my phone with the camera

496
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:56.799
on her to talk to my wife and said, you

497
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.759
can only see him at death. And that's the last

498
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:07.920
thing I remember before getting So she made what I

499
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.279
had after work because she she was worried that she'd

500
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.799
come to the hospital and if I saw that's that

501
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:16.279
was her biggest fear and that's why she was so upset.

502
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.480
And anyway, so what did it again? From this point on,

503
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.720
I don't remember a thing. I was not awake at

504
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:30.160
all for the event and for my unlike Nia's husband,

505
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:35.279
I was completely out in heavy, heavy drugs. I was

506
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:43.680
on all drip, propofol, drip none never I got it.

507
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:53.640
And but what it says, you're you're really breaking out?

508
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.920
I am, yeah, there you go? Can we there we go?

509
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:04.319
Maybe that's better Hopefully that helped that sound better. Nick, Yeah, Okay,

510
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:09.079
So what ended up happening is even though I'd refused

511
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.759
times and now we're on day twenty one of symptoms

512
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.920
and room devere is supposed to be used within the

513
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.240
first seven days. Is what he was telling me. The

514
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.480
doctor was telling me a few days prior tells my

515
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.160
wife that if they don't give me a room desevere

516
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.759
that I could die, that I need to get it.

517
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.640
This after he and I've had the conversation. I've refused

518
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.960
it three times. My wife refuses because she knew not

519
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.640
to do it, and on my record it shows me

520
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.720
getting in anyway. So they were in the process of

521
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.079
form consent or there's some other many other things that

522
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.559
they said I gave consent for that I didn't. They

523
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.200
even said I gave consent that that room desevere when

524
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.839
I was intubated, which is impossible.

525
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.720
And so that's how any consent when you're intubated. I

526
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:58.559
don't understand that.

527
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.279
Yeah, it's impossible, right, And so how I got to

528
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.720
the point where video or my previous when I walked

529
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.680
through my case a little bit was I had my

530
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.759
wife and brother in law knowing somebody high up in

531
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.799
the hospital system, and I was getting isolated. Nobody was

532
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.440
updating her on my care. This is what they do.

533
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.519
This is something I've heard hundreds of times. Iate the patient.

534
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.400
There's no advocate in the hospital for a certain period

535
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.720
of time. I think even nice that she couldn't get

536
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.960
in there for the first twelve thirteen days and I

537
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:38.440
have is that right? And and somebody wrote a note

538
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.160
to an email to the head of the hospital system.

539
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.240
Legal council got involved at the hospital system, and all

540
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.720
of a sudden everything started to change. And that's picked

541
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.759
up on the video that you played before, where within

542
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.200
about an hour I went from literally them doing everything

543
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.480
right by the book on the hospital protocol which killed people,

544
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.960
to listening to what my wife had to say, what

545
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.480
a doctor friend, surgeon had to say. And they're the

546
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:13.480
ones who got me on ECMO, and the the doctor

547
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.799
telling my wife he doesn't need echmo, he doesn't need ECMO,

548
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.720
and uh, my wife and our drastic surgeon friend said yes,

549
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.119
get on ECMO because she knew that there was nowhere

550
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.039
if I didn't. And continue to get worse, especially with

551
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.480
them giving me from desevere and everything else while I

552
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.119
was already force ventilated that I probably was in bad shape.

553
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.559
So that's how everything changed. And that's why from what

554
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.119
I was told, for the stint they'd ever seen on KMO,

555
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:44.519
which was nine nine days.

556
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.279
Wow. Now, Nya, let me ask you this because I

557
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.480
wanted to kind of clarify. Did they give David remdsevere?

558
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.039
Did they? Because I know they initiated the hospital protocol

559
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.519
on everybody. Do you know, did they? Were they giving

560
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.359
him tons of narcotics?

561
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.079
And well, you know, I'm not I'm not completely sure

562
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.359
because I'm like Jeff, I do have David's medical records,

563
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.920
and so for the first twelve or thirteen days that

564
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.160
I was not there, you know, I'm not exactly sure

565
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.599
what they did, and I haven't I haven't had the

566
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.319
heart and the bravery to go through his medical records

567
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.759
because I know what I'm going to see because for

568
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.240
the most part, I was there for the longevity of it,

569
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.319
except for the first, you know, two weeks of it.

570
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.079
So that would be something that I have to go

571
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.240
back and look at his medical records to see. I

572
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.799
don't doubt it because I know I saw them giving

573
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.000
him tons of other things, So that would be something

574
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.160
that I'd have to actually look through his medical records, see,

575
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.079
but I just haven't had the bravery to do it

576
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.279
just yet totally.

577
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:50.559
You know, we.

578
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:53.039
Know that the.

579
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.799
Families, the real patient advocates, were being kept out of

580
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:04.039
the hospital, and Jeff you touched on this. By many accounts,

581
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.079
families were not even getting updated when they called. However,

582
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.480
these were like significant interventions, And I remember when I

583
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.719
worked in cardiac care, the nurse or the patient you know,

584
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.679
advocate was assigned to that person to kind of help

585
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.719
the family navigate through that process, because there is so

586
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.239
much that goes into when you're putting people on EKMO,

587
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.920
when you're going into lung transplants. Jeff, you had mentioned

588
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.000
that you wrote a letter to help in an investigation

589
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.719
of the patient rights violations. Can you just briefly touch

590
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.840
on that and tell us a little bit about that.

591
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:53.199
Sure, So I reached out to the hospital system to

592
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.079
let them know about some of the things that I

593
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.880
ended up finding in my records, and was pointed to

594
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.639
the patient advocate at the first hospital, and so I

595
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:09.039
reached out and to start, you know, visiting with them

596
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.119
about what happened and get their thoughts and because that's

597
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:17.440
what they told me I should do. And every communication

598
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.159
that I ended up having that came through the mail

599
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.119
from them came with patients rights and responsibilities for him.

600
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.360
Interesting interesting thing about that form is that I know

601
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.400
I saw it in the hospital. I know I saw

602
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.159
it framed on the walls of the hospital. You're everywhere

603
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.360
you walk in the hospitel, you see patients rights responsibilities.

604
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.400
I'm ture and I, as a nurse abby saw those.

605
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.920
This one one that they kept sending, probably have six

606
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:48.159
or seven copies of it was dated January twenty twenty,

607
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:52.079
so right at the beginning of COVID. And one of

608
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:56.039
the responsibilities on that form is if I thought there

609
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:01.079
was violations of patient rights that I need to make

610
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.480
aware of those. Well, since they were saying they were

611
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.960
going to do a little investigation into my care, I said, well,

612
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.440
then it says here that I should I need to

613
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.320
make you aware of these things. So I listed nine things,

614
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.440
just a word for word for their pay for patients'

615
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.880
rights that I thought they violated, which there's no doubt

616
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:26.760
that those not the violated some others. And the response,

617
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:31.119
as part of the nation was basically three sentence, three sentences. Yeah,

618
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.599
that shouldn't happen. But sorry, I mean, as they basically

619
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:35.920
that I could read exactly what it said, but it

620
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.400
was basically nothing, and which means they don't They didn't

621
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.159
take any of that seriously though they sent it. They

622
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.920
sent it everywhere, they give it everywhere, it's plastered everywhere.

623
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.719
It meant nothing. And it's probably the community given during

624
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.000
COVID that they could get away with just about anything,

625
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.000
and they did. So I think it's it's not because

626
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.079
they actually believe any of those things.

627
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.039
Wow, I didn't.

628
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.360
Like you, So go ahead. Nice.

629
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:11.880
So Naya, in your situation, you're a nurse, do you

630
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.679
feel like maybe and I don't know, I'm just asking,

631
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.880
do you think there was any kind of different treatment there?

632
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.159
I mean, did you feel like maybe you received more

633
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.920
information less information or do you think that not factored

634
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.639
in or did you see anything as far as advocacy

635
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.199
there because you were kept out for two weeks the

636
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:32.159
first two weeks.

637
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:32.639
Yeah.

638
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.480
So, so my background is not in ICU, so I

639
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.000
want to kind of make that clear. I'm not an

640
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.280
ICU nurse, but I am a nurse, and so you know,

641
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.440
there are certain things that I do understand about nursing

642
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.400
care medications, you know, no matter.

643
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:45.440
What floor you work on.

644
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.119
So for the first two weeks, I was just being

645
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.960
kept informed via the phone, you like, whenever they would

646
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.239
kind of call at random times and tell me you

647
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.880
know this or that. But I felt like, you know,

648
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.000
I was grasping for straws waiting on these updates because

649
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.840
they weren't coming as quickly or as athens. I felt

650
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.920
like they should have been given the nature and the

651
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:07.559
severity of what was.

652
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.360
Going on with him.

653
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.360
I will say that me being a nurse and me

654
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.000
actually having worked at this particular hospital that he was

655
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.079
at for quite some years, did kind of work to

656
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.800
my advantage to be able to see him at that

657
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.239
you know, two week mark, because they weren't allowing any patients.

658
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.480
If you'd come in there for COVID you were on

659
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.480
a thirty day like restriction. You couldn't have any visitors

660
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.400
for thirty days until, like they deemed you clear. So

661
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.039
I will say that myself being a nurse did kind

662
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.280
of work in my favor on that part, because once

663
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:41.880
I did, remember I told you, when I came up

664
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.519
there to kind of reset his phone and he saw me,

665
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.400
he made it very clear that he was not going

666
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:47.840
to be.

667
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:48.679
Up there without me.

668
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.159
And so they called me that next day and asked

669
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.599
me if I could come up there and sit with

670
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.360
him and be with him, and I did from that

671
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:57.920
day for because they were having to have a sitter

672
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:58.320
in there with.

673
00:38:58.320 --> 00:38:59.599
Him because he was anxious.

674
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:01.719
You know, he's got all these tubes running through his body,

675
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.719
he's got echmo, I mean, and he's awake. I mean,

676
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.280
I can't even imagine how he was feeling. But I

677
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.159
would say that it did kind of work in my favor.

678
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.239
But also I feel like they thought.

679
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.679
Like, oh, well, you're a nurse, you understand what we're doing.

680
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.880
Sometimes I did, and sometimes I didn't. And sometimes because

681
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:22.519
I understood what they were giving him, I questioned a

682
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.159
lot of things like why are y'all doing that?

683
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.599
Like what is this? You know?

684
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:29.000
Why do why every five minutes are you guys giving

685
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:29.679
him morphine?

686
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.559
And he's not complaining of any pain.

687
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.360
All that's doing is making him, you know, he feels

688
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.559
sedated now, you know, like every they would do things

689
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:43.599
like give him sarahpuill because at night, and they knew

690
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.119
that this would plummet his blood pressure. So now when

691
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.079
his blood pressure goes down, we got to give him

692
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.760
something to get it back up. And so I started

693
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.880
becoming his advocate, you know, as his wife and as

694
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.719
a nurse, because I'm like, you know, I'm trying to

695
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.639
I'm trying to like get a feel for what's going

696
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:01.400
on here and see what it is you guys are

697
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.119
doing because I'm not necessarily familiar with I see you

698
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.800
and not necessarily familiar with that mole. But I am

699
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.079
questioning some of the things that you guys are doing.

700
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.639
And so I started coming in. I would be there

701
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.559
at grounds when they would do rounds and whenever they

702
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.320
would talk about, you know, what's going on with David.

703
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.719
You know how when overnight, you know, I would correct

704
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.159
them like, no, we're not doing that, We're not giving

705
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.599
him this. You know, this does this because every two weeks,

706
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:28.880
it seems like they would change.

707
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.719
This is kind of a teaching facility.

708
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.239
So I feel like every ten weeks they would change

709
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.920
the core team of doctors, and so like maybe this

710
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.239
doctor may want to do this, and then this doctor

711
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:40.840
is like, no, we're going to do this, you know,

712
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.320
but that makes him respond like this, And so I

713
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.960
had to be the one to be his continuity and

714
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.599
to be his advocate to say, you know what, no,

715
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.679
I know when you guys do this, this doesn't help.

716
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.280
I know when you guys give him this, like when

717
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.800
we give him argument when it's signed for PT that

718
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:58.639
helps him not to become hypotensive.

719
00:40:58.679 --> 00:40:59.599
So we're going to do that.

720
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.239
You know, when when you guys are giving him this

721
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.960
medication at night, it drops his blood pressure. So we're

722
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.119
not going to do that. We need we have somebody

723
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.079
in here that does sleep hygiene. We can have somebody

724
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:11.519
come in here and talk to him about sleep hygiene

725
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.679
and different things that can help him start to relax

726
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.800
at night, and say that you guys giving him medications

727
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:17.239
that are going to.

728
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.639
Sedate him and make him you know completely just you

729
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:20.320
know caunk out.

730
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.239
So you know, I felt like I had to be

731
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:26.119
his advocate because I feel like sometimes they thought like, well.

732
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.199
You're a nurse, you you you got it.

733
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.920
No, I want to know what you're doing, why you're

734
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.119
doing it, what is this going to do? And I

735
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.000
had to be the one, you know at round to

736
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.960
say that is not what happened.

737
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.159
You know, this is what happened. This is how this went,

738
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:41.920
This is how that went.

739
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.719
You know, I'm correcting the doctors, like, no, you know,

740
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.679
when the dieticians will come in. I'm like, you know

741
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.400
that he weighed this way. I haven't seen anybody weigh him. Like,

742
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.159
I'm looking at him and he is losing all kinds

743
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.320
of weight, Like, what are we doing with this diet?

744
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.760
You know? Can he start getting on food? Purade?

745
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.960
Got to start with puriaide if we've got you know whatever,

746
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:02.119
I'm looking at him.

747
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.880
I know what my husband looks like, and this is

748
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.519
not what my husband looks like, you know.

749
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:09.239
So so it was kind of like a double edged

750
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.760
sword me being a nurse and knowing some things, but

751
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.199
you know, they kind of like didn't really inform me.

752
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.679
But then also it was kind of the other way

753
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.559
around too, So I just kind of had to be

754
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.800
the continuity in his consistency.

755
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:27.239
So absolutely, and thank god that you were there. I

756
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.960
wanted to kind of touch on real quickly. Moving forward,

757
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.239
there's lots of things to consider. We've got RFK Junior,

758
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.880
who's going to come in. We's talked about reform of

759
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.760
the CDC. We've got Biden and Harris who's given preemptive

760
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.920
pardons to Fauci, but he can still be prosecuted on

761
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.400
the state level. We've got doctor David Martin who spoke

762
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.519
in Oklahoma at a COVID interim study and that that

763
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.159
I helped, you know, prep for, and he was telling

764
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:03.039
us about these CIX eight active pathogens and toxins that

765
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.840
are deployment ready today. I mean, these are our patents

766
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.880
for vector weaponization that are ready to be deployed today.

767
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:11.119
You know.

768
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.000
And so we've only got like three minutes left. I

769
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.960
want to give you each a minute here. What would

770
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.400
you like to say to the Congress, Robert F. Kennedy,

771
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.679
local elected officials, what do you want to see going forward?

772
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:27.800
Ni I'm going to start with you.

773
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:29.639
We've we've just got to you can start.

774
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.599
You can start with Jeff because okay, you know there's

775
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:33.760
some things that you know.

776
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:35.079
You can start with Jeff.

777
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.119
Okay, okay, sounds good.

778
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:37.519
Jeff.

779
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:38.519
One minute.

780
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.719
Well, quickly, I would say, remove all the immunities that

781
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.039
were given to the doctors and the hospitals so they

782
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.800
can find out what really happened. And I think it's

783
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:55.760
shameful that in the United States of America that patients

784
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:00.079
didn't get informed, consent, none of these things that you

785
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.719
should have learned lessons to learn from the Holocaust. We've

786
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.440
already forgotten in a generation or two. It's crazy. And

787
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:12.000
so I think that's the main thing. And even at that,

788
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.480
I'll even if that's that you have a short period

789
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.199
of time, that that that's the main thing that needs

790
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:16.840
to happen so we can get to the bottom of us.

791
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.880
Yeah, and I am of that sentiment.

792
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:21.599
One of the biggest things for me is that, you know,

793
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.719
after everything happened, I actually tried to go to an

794
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.960
attorney because I felt like the things that I saw

795
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.840
there were definitely some neglect. There were a lot of

796
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.159
things that I felt like should not have been done.

797
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.039
So understanding that in my state that you know, these

798
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.719
physicians have this blank and community because it was a pandemic,

799
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.440
no one's going to be held responsible for the things

800
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:45.320
that were done to the people that were in the hospital,

801
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.760
those who survived and those who didn't. So I'm with

802
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.719
you on that. I would like to see somebody some

803
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.039
responsibility be taken take this blank community off. I don't

804
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:55.880
want to you know, commercials down the line and be like, oh,

805
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.599
if you suffered from COVID loss, you know here, you know,

806
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.079
ten years from now, called this number whatever is.

807
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:02.320
That we shouldn't be like that. We need to take

808
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:02.719
care of this.

809
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:08.719
Now, going to have it absolutely and I agree with

810
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.719
you both wholeheartedly, and we need to have more conversations

811
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.599
about this. We need to dig deeper in Jeff and Nyah.

812
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.920
I want to have you back. I really would like

813
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.280
to be able to talk to you more because this

814
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:27.960
is an incredible conversation and I want to thank you

815
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.599
so much for just coming on and talking to us

816
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:39.199
about your experiences. Please go to CHBMP dot org so

817
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.800
that you can tell your story to the former FEDS

818
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:47.400
group Freedom Foundation. They are across the nation and you

819
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.119
know that is a community where they will put you

820
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.119
in touch with people. They have support groups, lots of

821
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.119
stuff that they do. They are also working on getting

822
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:01.800
investigations into the COVID protocols, the COVID hospital protocols. They're

823
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.880
also working on the MR and A injections. We work

824
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:09.679
hand in hand. We're going to be having more information

825
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.400
on this coming. Actually, I want to thank all of

826
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.599
you for being with me today. Remember, resistance is not

827
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.280
futile and blessings to you all.

828
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:59.159
It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

829
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.159
let's be inntunctionable,