Dec. 5, 2024

Pardoning Hunter

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Late on a Sunday night, Joe Biden put out a statement to pardon Hunter for all crimes he might be involved in - beginning from January 1st 2014. That's odd - since we were told for months that he would not pardon him. Let's break it down with Paul Kamenar!

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above the law. Remember that what about this clip might

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bring it back. No one is above the law. No

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one is above the law.

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Nobody is above the law. No one is above the law.

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No one is above the law. Nobody is above the law.

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No one is above the law.

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No one is above the law.

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No one is above the law. No one is above

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the law. No one is above the law.

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No one is above the law.

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Yep, no one's above the law. A pardon, pardon, pardon,

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There will be no pardons. Remember, will you.

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Accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is.

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Yes? And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?

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Yeah?

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I should, I said, ad buy by the jury to soume,

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I will do that and.

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I will not pardon him. No one, no one is

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above the law, they said, The lord said abjective.

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Is there any possibility that the president would end up

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pardoning his son?

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You know?

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Well there I just said, no, I just answer, but

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commute his son. He's convicted. So I answered this question

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before it was asked of me.

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Not too long ago, a couple of weeks ago, and

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I was very clear and I said no.

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The President would not pardon or of community stories one Hunter.

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They would not. Still it's still a no. It's still

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an I will always you know, it's still a no.

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It will be a no.

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It is a no.

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If we do have some breaking news, President Biden has

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officially pardoned his son Hunter. Yes, on Sunday, quietly with

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a slide of hand and a stroke of the pen.

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In an administration that has a doctorate degree and lies

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in deception, Joe Biden pardons his son. Okay, who didn't

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see that coming? Come on, man, But wait, that isn't

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just for gun charges or tax evasion. This is actually

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wiping away, free and clear eleven years of crimes and

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charges which he has committed or may have committed. Okay,

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all the way back to when Hunter was on the

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board of Barisma. And it covers any federal charges, sex trafficking, bribery,

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money laundering, foreign agent crimes involving Ukraine or China. And

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how convenient that this coincides with the big guy influence

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peddling timeline. Oh and who cannot forget the quid pro

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quo that was heard around the world.

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Oh, I was not I, but it just happened to be.

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That was the assignment I got. I got all the

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good ones, and so I got Ukraine. And I remember

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going over convincing our team, our brothers, to convincing that

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we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over,

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I guess the twelve thirteenth time to Kiev and I

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was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar

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loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Porshenko

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and from Yachts in New York that they would take

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action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't. So they

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said they were walking out to prescomt. I said no,

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I said, I'm not going to or we're not going

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to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have

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no authority, you're not the president. The president said, I said,

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call him. I said, I'm telling you're not getting a

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billion dollars. I said, you're not getting the billion. I'm

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going to be leaving here. And I think it was

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what six hours. I look as I'm leaving the six hours.

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If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.

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Oh son of a bitch, you got fired.

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And there you go today. I am honored to have

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back on my show Paul Camner to break down the

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pardon Watch twenty twenty four. Mister Camner is the lead

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council for the National Legal and Policy Center. He represented

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Andrew Miller, who had been subpoenaed as a witness in

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the investigation by Special Counsel Robert Muller. Remember him, Yeah,

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I do too. Mister Camner also served as senior executive

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counsel of the Washington League Foundation and excuse me, Washington

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Legal Foundation. Welcome back to Intentional Paul Kamner. Hello, it's

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good to see you again, sir. How are you?

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Yeah? Fine, thank you. And by the way, it's Kaminar,

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not cameron Ar.

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I'm so sorry Kaminar. My apology, sir. I will put

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that in my brain and see if I can get

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it seared in there. Well, let me just is it

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okay if I just call you Paul, that's fine, perfect, Paul.

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You heard my introduction. And there is a lot of chatter,

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but the overwhelming consensus, at least by those of us

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who have been paying attention, is that this wasn't a

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father's act of love. This was Joe covering Joe's own

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behind and protecting the crooked family business. Now, many including myself,

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believed that Joe will now give his whole family and

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himself a blanket pardon on his way out the door

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because he knows that the investigation was not about Hunter,

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it was about the Joe Biden crime family. So Paul,

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could you please just just break this down for us.

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What does this broad blanket pardon mean for Joe and

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what happens if he pardons the whole Biden clan, including himself.

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Do they just get to skate and the corruption is

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swept under the rug?

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Well, yeah, thank you, he did give, as you said,

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a blanket parton not only for the two crimes that

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Hunter was convicted of the gun charge. Of the tax

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charges was by the way, Hunter basically pled guilty to

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because there's no defense. So the blanket party covers everything

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that Hunter did or may have done or thought about

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doing since two thousand and four team until December one,

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twenty twenty four. That's about eleven years. So Hunter cannot

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be prosecuted for any further crimes, even though there are

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others there that we at the National Legal Policy Center

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urge the Justice Department to prosecute such as the violation

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of Foreign Agents Registration Act, which requires those who act

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in the interest of foreign companies or foreign interests have

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to register as an agent with that Department of Justice.

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And of course Hunter was doing all this work for

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Burisman Ukraine and the Chinese Energy Company and other countries

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and occurring favor with the big guy, so to speak,

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as he's called in the laptop, which is his dad,

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Joe Biden. So I'm not surprised that he did that,

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but that may come back to buy President abided in

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this way because he's now has a full pardon. He

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cannot a Hunter cannot basically plead the Fifth Amendment to

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any further investigation, whether it's before the House Oversight Committees

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and the House Judiciary Committee chaired by Jim Jordan, or

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whether it's under the new Attorney General Pam Bondi, who say,

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convenes grand jury and has a Hunter coming for the

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grand jury. He has to answer all questions. He can't say, oh, no,

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I refuse to answer the grounds that I might go

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to incriminate me. No, sorry, Hunter, that's no longer available

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to you because you can't be prosecuted for anything. So

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what does that mean. It means that the rest of

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the Biden crime family can be left open to further

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prosecution than even by using Hunter as a source and evidence.

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So therefore I knew from day one he was going

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to be pardoned. That came as no surprise to me.

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The reasons he gave are obviously demonstrably false. His main

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thing is, oh, this was a raw political prosecution of

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my son. He would not have been prosecuted if his

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name wasn't abided. Well, actually he got preferential treatment because

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he was the president's son. You had two irs whistleblowers

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who testified before conversing, hey, we could do a full investigation.

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We were blocked by Department of Justice higher ups saying

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you can't go into Hunter's laptop. Oh no, you can't

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search for any evidence that leads to Joe Biden. That's

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all limits. So you know, wait a minute. And then,

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as you said, he did get prosecuted for other violations,

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money laundering, having a women cross state lines, which is

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traveling under the Man Act as a crime, the violation

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of the Forign Agents Registration Act, all that he wasn't

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charged with. So, like I said, he got a great

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break and as you recall last year, they were trying

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to do a play bargain in Delaware with the gun

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charge to quietly let that go away and therefore basically

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give him immunity for anything else. And the judge there

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quickly saw through that charade and said, no, I'm not

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going to be parcel and bless this plea bargain. And

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that's when the deal fell through. And therefore David Wise,

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the prosecutor said okay, I'll go after you for the

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gun charge. As we know he was convicted, went after

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him for the tax chargers in California, and he played guilty.

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And the other reason, by the way, Biden said that

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he was giving his son a pardon now only because

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he thought it was, you know, politically motivated. But he said, then,

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by the bye, Biden said, that tax charge he just filed,

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His tax is laid, He repaid all the money back.

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What's the big deal. You know, other people file their

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taxes late. That's not incredibly prosecuted, but convenely forgot that.

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Wait a minute. It was also prosecuted for three felonies

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of tax evasion not filing his things late. But the

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forms he did file he lied in terms of the deductions.

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Just to give you one example, he deducted ten thousand

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dollars to join what he said was a golf club. Well,

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the investigators found out that that was ten thousand dollars

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payment to does to a sex club. Now, I don't

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know how that could be a business deduction unless unless

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Hunter Biden is in the porno movie business, then you

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be able to take that as a deduction. So there's

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a lot of this stuff going on, and it was

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clear that these were serious crimes and next week he

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would have been sentenced by the judge out there to

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hard time a year or two of our time. So

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so so there was nothing new that that Joe Biden

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said that why he gave the party he did. He said, well,

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now I thought about it in his political persecution. Well

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wait a minute, that's what Hunter and his attorneys were

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saying months and months ago. So why don't you give

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him a partner back then? Oh yeah, there was a

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campaign going on. I see, So that's when he got

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these half dozen lies. I say, I'm not going to

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parton my son, no way, no, how so that was

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really a joke. Now, you know, he may have wanted

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to maybe split the baby in half and say, look,

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I'm not going to pardon you. I want these crimes

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to still be on the books and show that you're guilty,

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but I'm going to give you a commutation, meaning that

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if the judge sends you to a couple of years

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in prison, you're not going to have to go through

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the prison time. Now, maybe some people could have politically

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swallowed that and go, yeah, he's still a convicted felon. Yeah,

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he could be disbarred for that. Yes, that's still on

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his record. But yeah, you know it's his dad. He

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doesn't want to see his son in jail, so he

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may be able to skate away with giving a computation,

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but he didn't. So now that he's got this full pardon,

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he's exposed himself to a liability and the rest of

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the Biden crime family. So to your point about what

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does Joe do now, Well, I wouldn't be surprised on

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the last day in office on January nineteenth that he

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does pardon at a minimum, his brother Jim, because Jim

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is basically tied to the hip with Hunter on this stuff,

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and in fact, both Hunter and Jim were referred to

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the Justice Department this summer for lying that Congress under oath,

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which is perjury. Of course, Mayor Garland wasn't going to

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prosecute him for that, But now that Pam Bondi's coming in,

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she can dust that off and say, hey, you know,

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I'm not going to prosecute for lying to the Congress.

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Hunter you got a free pass, so you get to skate.

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But Jim, no, you're not pardon so we're going to

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go after you. So that's why I think Joe Biden

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will pardon Jim the rest of the family, and he

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may pardon himself. That that's questionable whether or not the

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constitution the president can pardon himself. I think there's you know,

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good reasons on both sides he can't, and he may

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just do that as insurance just in case it is

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constitutional when it's later litigated. He can make sure he

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gets that in there for Healing's office. But even if

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he's not pardoning himself, the statue limitations may run out

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on some of these charges against him. Keep in mind

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that he does not have immunity, which the Supreme Court

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ruled that presidents such as Donald Trump do have. Biden

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was vice president at the time. All the Shenanigans were

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going on, so he doesn't have immunity. So basically that's

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the scope of the implication of the pardon that Joe

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gave to his son. Now, I may want to add

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that yesterday Trump's attorneys followed a motion in the New

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York case that's the Hushpunny case, and that's the one

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where where Judge Brushan put the case on hold and

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the sensing on hold he was supposed to be sentenced

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because now that Trump's selected, they said, let's put this

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on hold. Alvin bra so let's wait until he gets

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out of presidency in four years. And themo imposed the

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said so on, and well, you know you can't have

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the sense on a layweight plan like that. So what

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the Trump's attorneys did say, Look, your honor, this case

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should be shut down, not only because of some of

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the immunity problems in that case, but look what Joe

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Biden said. He said that in pardon is necessary because

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the Justice Department was engaged in rawal politics and vindictive prosecution,

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et cetera. Wow, you want to see, your honor, a

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case example of vindictive prosecution and selective prosecution. This is it.

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The one with Alvin Bragg. So we're just asking you

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the same reasoning that Joe Biden did to basically erase

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this conviction against Donald Trump on these trumped up charges,

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no pun intended. So that's where we are.

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Well, let me ask you this because I was speaking

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to a group of podcasters. It's a separate show that

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I do, and there was kind of a bit of debate.

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You had mentioned about the Fifth Amendment that Hunter would

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no longer that that couldn't apply to him, and so

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you know, they if they bring in Hunter to testify

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and he puts everything out there, even if Joe Biden

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pardons himself, could they still go after him for charges

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like treason or something like that or is this just

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would it just be an exercise in getting the truth out.

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Well, it could be both, because even if Joe Biden

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partners himself, they could still bring charges say hey, nice try,

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we don't think that's constitutional, and that'll be litigated. And

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therefore the course could say nice try, Joe. But the

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president camp part of himself. You're stuck with any indictments

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that the Justice Department's bringing. But even if they say yeah,

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way to go, you just escaped through by having this

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presidential part by yourself. But you know, here's all these

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other evidence that's you know, basically is a staying on

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your legacy, et cetera. So have fund raising money for

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your presidential library.

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Right right, Well, let me ask you this too, because

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one of the things that Joe, in my opinion, admitted

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is that the DOJ is a weaponized system. When he

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said that no reasonable person could look at the facts

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and draw any conclusion other than that, you know, he

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was singled out because his name was Biden, But that

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is Joe Biden's DOJ, and I think it's really rich

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that he's talking about weaponization. After the Biden Harris FBI

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spent four years arresting parading grandmothers for January sixth, he

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went after the pro life advocates. He targeted parents who

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were standing up for their children at school board meetings,

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and they went after Donald Trump, and right they jailed

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Pete Navarro and Steve Bannon. So, but now the media

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is really frightened. They are panicked over the nomination of

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Cash Battel as the FBI director, and they're just doing

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this whole To me, they're like they're saber rattling there

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they're clutching their pearls. They're saying, he's hell been on

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revenge on behalf of Donald Trump. And I don't think that.

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I think Cash will clean out and fix the problem

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of the weaponized FBI. It's politicized, for sure, and they

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surveilled on Americans without warrants, violating the FAIZA how many

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hundreds of thousands of times? But why is this? You know,

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I mean, this is why we elected Donald Trump. But

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but you know, what, what do you say about that?

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I mean, do you think we should just let Cash

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pattel in there? I mean, I do let him.

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Call you up exactly, and he will be a very

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good FBI director ed he will clean house there and

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get rid of these uh, politically motivated FBI investigators as

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well as the FBI attorneys there who also went after

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not only Donald Trump, like you said, you know, parents

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at school board meetings complaining about you know, different school curriculum,

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the DEI and LGBTQ and all that. So, so yeah,

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he he will clean house. But I think once he's

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getting in, I think the house will clean itself. You'll

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see right now they're dusting off the resumes and getting

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out of town. Here because they know, hey, the ax

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is coming. We better find the outside deployment here because

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it's not going to be a happy day once cash

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gets in. Now, the real thing that should be scaring

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them not just cash, but of course Pam Bondy, because

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cash works under pambody. She's the attorney General. The FBI

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is under her auspices, and so she's also pledged and

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vowed to clean house too at the Department of Justice,

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because they're the ones that actually bring the charges. The

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FBI investigates the chargers, and that's bad enough when they

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abuse that investigatory process, but it's the DOJ attorneys that

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actually prosecute and go to the grand jury and and

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and go after people like you said, Steve Baden and

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Varro and Donald Trump, uh and so forth. So so

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it's going to be a good day and and and

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and and and people say the Democrats, well, you know

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that's weaponization that you're doing. No, no, it is. And

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it's holding people accountable. Uh. We're not going out looking

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for uh a new access to grind and so forth.

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We're just holding accountable those who abused their powers while

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they were in office. And that's something that should be

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done and needs to be done, and also will be

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done by the Congress and the various oversight U hearings

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that will be done on both the House and now

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the Senate side, since now the Republicans are control of

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the Senate.

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Yeah, and let's hope that all those senators just sort

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of recognize that there was this persecution against we the people.

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But not just we the people, but like you talked

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about the lawfare with Donald Trump and his cabinet picks

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as well. I mean, they are going after every single

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one of them, you know, just about you know. I mean,

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it's really unreal. But one of the one the group

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of people that I would really like to see get

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justice is the J sixers. And I really feel like, yeah,

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day one, you know, Donald Trump should pardon them, absolutely,

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every single one of them. And I don't think any

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lips should flap about that or against that. I mean,

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don't you think so as well?

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Well? Absolutely, Donald Trump has promised several times on the

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campaign trails, well know, that he would part of the

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J Sixers. Now, there was some talk about, well some

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of them were violent and so forth. So the way

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I see it that Donald Trump could and this will

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take a lot of time because there's like eleven hundred

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J six ers. One way he could cut to the

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chase is to give what's called a proclamation pardon. What

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that means is in one piece of paper, he could say,

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I hereby part in all J sixers who were charged

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with or convicted of trespassing, misdemeanors, et cetera that were

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non violent, and then boom, that group is out of

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the picture. They're they're they're their pardon. Uh. In fact,

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Joe Biden did this last year. What he said, I

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hereby parted all federal convictors who are prisoned because of

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using marijuana and charge with marijuana. And then what happened

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after that, those who were in prison on these marijuana

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charges or even came out and still had on the record,

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They they contacted the Justice Department's part of the attorney

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and said, hey, here's my docket number. I was one

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of these persons that President Biden did, and it's oh,

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you're right, and then they send it back a certificate

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of pardon. Now they have a clean slate. So that's

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one thing he could do with the majority of the

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January six ers. Then there could be a second bucket

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