May 6, 2025

"Petition for Pardon"

"Petition for Pardon"

On January 20, 2025, President Trump bravely pardoned almost all of the January 6 defendants. He commuted the sentences of 14 J6 defendants. President Trump promised to examine their cases more carefully and possibly upgrade them to a pardon. Two have...

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Season 1

On January 20, 2025, President Trump bravely pardoned almost all of the January 6 defendants.
He commuted the sentences of 14 J6 defendants. President Trump promised to examine their cases more carefully and possibly upgrade them to a pardon. Two have already received a pardon or exoneration. There are 12 left to go!
"David is Innocent -- Pardon the 14!"

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Hello, and welcome to Intentional. I am your host, Mick

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me Al. It is really good to be with you

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all today and I pray that you are blessed beyond

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really appreciate your support. Now I want to be really

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serious with you all at this time. One of the

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biggest scourges caused by an open border crisis is the

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flow of uncontrolled fentanyl. Seventy percent of last year's overdose

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deaths we're attributed to fentanyl. Now, let's be intentional. It's

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time for the catterwall. Do you remember back to January

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twentieth of twenty twenty five, when President Trump signed the

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pardons and commutations for the J six hostages.

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Let's watch that clip.

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So this is January sixth. How these are the hostages,

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approximately fifteen hundred for.

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A pardon for a partner, a full parten.

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We have about six commutations in there where we're doing

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further research.

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Nice to see you again. So this is a big one.

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Anything you want to explain about this, We hope they

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get them. We hope they come out tonight.

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Frankly, if you're expecting it. Approximately fifteen hundred people, six commutations.

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We look at the different things, but the commutations will

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be the ones that will take a look and maybe

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it'll say that way or it'll go to in a

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full parton.

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And the order does require the Bureau of Prisons to

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act immediately on receipt of the pardons and commutation orders.

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Sir, this is why don't we get that down so

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they can get them going right now?

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Sir?

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Okay, yep, absolutely so.

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As it turns out, there were initially fourteen commutations issued,

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now twelve. So let's jump into this because today we

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have one of the remaining twelve J six ers with us.

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Who is asking President Trump to continue with the fulfillment

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of his promise to examine these cases and possibly upgrade

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them to a pardon. David Morshell is a seminary trained

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Christian minister. He's a crisis chaplain and a medical specialist.

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He went to the Capitol as an oathkeeper on January

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sixth in response to a call for help as a medic.

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He was pushed into the Capitol with the crowd and

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left as soon as he could. But for his eleven

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minutes in the Capitol, he and his family have sorely suffered.

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He was in some level of federal custody for at

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least two years, and until his sentence was commuted by

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President Trump, there he stayed. However, a commutation only ends

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the sentence, it does not restore a person's right. David

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is urging President Trump to examine these cases more closely

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and issue his pardon without delay. We also have Kate

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and Marbarre with us. She is back, she has been

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with us before. She is a born again Christian and

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Caitlin is a life defender. She is a J six advocate.

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She is working to assist David and others in their

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petition to pardon the remaining patriots by promoting and champion

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the postcard campaign. She has also written two books to

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raise awareness about the J six place and boost morale

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among patriots wherever they are. Those books are Mega Mouse

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to the Rescue, and they came upon a midnight raid.

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Welcome with me, David and Caitlin.

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Hello, Hi, thank you, Hello, Thank you for having us.

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Yes, thank you so much for being with us today.

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I am so grateful to be able to speak with you,

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David and Caitlin. It seems like because I'm just going

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to jump right in here, let's just get going, because

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there's a lot to unpack. It seems like the need

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for the remaining pardons to be granted to the twelve

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J six ers, it's not getting as much attention as

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it should, at.

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Least on social media.

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I would anticipate that maybe the whole social media page

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would be overwhelmed. So we're hoping that many people are

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watching this right now and the news spreads like wildfire.

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But there are indeed still twelve of the fourteen J

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six ers whose sentences were commuted, they still not have

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been fully pardoned. Meeting that the commutation, a person is

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sentence is just reduced, and with a pardon there's like

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a complete forgiveness and a restoration of their civil rights.

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So, David, I kind of want to start with you.

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On January sixth of twenty twenty one, We're going to

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play a bit of your video that shows where eleven

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minutes of walking in the Capitol came with a three

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year sentenced to prison and charges that included seditious conspiracy

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and conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging his duty.

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So let's play that clip while you kind of walk

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us through the true story of your involvement on j

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six ser Okay, so there.

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Should be some audio here, and you know we we

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talked to when I when I show this myself, and

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the way that I explained it is we were pushed

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into the Capitol, and you know, if the audio we're

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playing here, I encourage your listeners to go to David

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as Innison dot com.

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And watch this for themselves.

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But you know, as this video plays, you could actually

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hear in the background people yelling push, push, and so

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there were people in the back that were pushing the

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crowd in and so I'm like in the middle of

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this sort of this crowd that's getting pushed in, and

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some people in the front were yelling.

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Stop pushing, don't push.

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People in the back yelling push, and so we were

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all just getting pushed in. As matter of fact, you're

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gonna see Kelly Meggs if we once the camera angle

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switches to the interior, you're gonna see Kelly Meggs get

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kind of lifted up off his s feet. You're going

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to watch Joseph Hackett. So this is just showing a

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change in the camera angle. So now we're going to

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watch people come in. So if you focus on the

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top of the screen there, you're going to see Kelly Meggs.

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Uh Okay, So there's a guy in the black mask.

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He's getting pushed in right now. You can see him

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right there. And then Joseph Hackett in a moment, he's

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going to hold on to the doors. And so Joseph

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hacketts right there, he's holding on to the doors, and

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you can watch that's what's me circle of my head

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and Joseph Hackett's right behind me U so you see

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you to see him holding onto the door and he

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gets swept in. So when we say that we were

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pushed in. In fact, we did not want to be

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in there. And uh and me and Joseph Hackett especially,

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we were the first people to exit the capital after

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only eleven minutes.

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Wow, now we're just kind of playing through here. We've

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got maybe about six minutes of the video. I know

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the video is eleven minutes, and we do want people

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to go to David is innocent dot com forward slash

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eleven hyphen m I in for a minute.

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The whole video is there.

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We kind of wanted to given outline here because it

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does appear like the people who are walking in there,

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I don't see anybody tearing down property. I don't see

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anybody threatening. Can you tell us what it was like

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inside the Capitol as you were walking around? Where you

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were you escorted around? Were you told to leave right away?

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What happened there?

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David?

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Well, Mike, you're you're very observant because you know, as

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we look at this video.

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Here, there's no tear gas. Now, I've never been to

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a riot, Mick, I don't know. I don't know if

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you've been to a riot, maybe you don't.

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Want to admit it on air, but I never been

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to a riot. And when I when I show this

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video in public, I ask people, do you see any

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riotous activity here? Because you're right, Mick, there's there's no

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tear gas, there's no police, there's no there's no destruction

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of property, there's no fighting.

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It's just it looks like a busy.

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Day at a museum. There's just people walking around. And

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I never encountered a police officer. No police officer ever

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told me to leave there. There was no fighting. Matter

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of fact, in one point in the video, you can

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see a group of oathkeepers kneeling down in the middle

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of the Great Rotunda, and you.

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Know what they're doing, Nick, They're praying.

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And we actually was actually video out there of the

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prayer because somebody took their camera and put it face

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down so that it recorded them as they're sort of

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huddled and praying, and they're praying, Nick in Jesus' name.

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That doesn't sound like seditious rioters to me, and so

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I would I would just I would urge everybody to

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stop saying that that this was some sort of violent riot.

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I hear even a Republican congressman saying talking about a

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violent riot. This was There was no violence here that

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I saw and yeah, go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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I was just saying this right here, it looks like

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you've got people who were were calling for something to

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be done that was inappropriate, and the oathkeepers are actually

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the ones pushing back and saying no, we're not we're

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not doing anything inappropriate.

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And there you are right there.

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What what what happened in that instance?

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Yeah, so of course, yeah, this is so this is

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the the famous interaction of the oath Keepers with Harry Dunn.

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So you know, Harry Dunn was the was the officer

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on January sixth. He later ran for Congress. He was

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given the Congressional Medal of Honor. UH. He changed his

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story twice. He gave three interviews with the UH with

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the FBI. His first interview he said the oath Keepers

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were helping him, and then the progressive interviews he began

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to say, no, they weren't helping me, and then no,

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they were hindering me. No, they were, you know, yelling

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at me or whatever. And there was a book deal

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in there somewhere. I'm not I can't remember. I don't

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quote me on the UH on the timing of the

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whole thing.

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But so he so the oathkeepers what actually happened.

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And Stephen Horn, who was an investigative journalist, a citizen journalist,

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that was the footage that you just saw. And Stephen

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Horn says, and he says to this day, he posted

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on x just last month that what he observed the

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oathkeepers protecting Harry Dunn.

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Indeed, that was what we were doing.

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You see, I was there in the small house for

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a tunda as the oathkeepers were protecting him from you know,

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more aggressive protesters, and Harry Dunns has his hand on

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a gun, on a rifle and his finger on the trigger,

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and he's I mean, he's ready, he's ready to open fire.

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He made you know, he made it clear that he

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would open fire. And so the the oathkeepers were trying

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to sort of DEAs escalate the situation and form a

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sort of a barrier between the two. But of course

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he says no, you know, Harry Dunn says, no, you

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weren't actually doing that. You were hindering me from doing

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my job.

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You were you know, you.

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Talk about some racial slurs or whatever which didn't take place.

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And so that was a very important interaction. And what

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you're seeing on the video right now. And if you

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look on the right side of the screen at this moment,

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you'll see some blood on the floor. We believe that's

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Ashley Babbitt's blood actually, when Babbitt was shot in cold

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blood by the Bird officer Bird. And there's that civil

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suit right now. And you can see me and Joseph

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Hackett exiting the capitol right there after eleven minutes.

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And fifteen seconds. So you know, this whole concept of.

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The violent riot or the Oathkeepers participating in some sort

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of a violent riot, I mean, that is just patently false.

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We just need to stop. It's a busy day at

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a museum.

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And in fact, when Kelly Meggs and Connie Megs the

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husband and wife they were the leaders of the oath Keepers,

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when they were on their way home, they thought they

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were going to get like a medal of bravery for.

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Protecting Harry Dunn.

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And in fact, just a few weeks later they were

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arrested and then subsequently charged with seditious conspiracy Harry Dunn.

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I think Steve Baker's done the great work showing how

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Harry Dun led on the stand, how David Lazarus lied

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on the stand during the first oath keeper trial.

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You know, they did so poorly.

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They didn't even put him on the second, the second

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Oathkeeper trial, which is what the trial that I was in.

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So you know what a violent riot you saw was.

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This was a busy day in the museum.

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Yeah, and I was actually there and it did not

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I mean I remember walking up Constitutional Avenue with people

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that I didn't even know, holding hands, praying, singing, waving flags.

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It was almost like a festival going on. Now.

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I have spoken to many people who simply walked in

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the Capitol because the doors were open. They got shoved in.

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You know, people were pushing. It was a large crowd.

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You know, you can't help but being pushed in. And

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I didn't even see in there. In one video that

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I did with an interviewer or an interviewee, they the

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police were like cordoned off. They couldn't go any further

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because the police had kind of like a line on.

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I don't know if it was the East entrance, it

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wasn't the West entrance. I think it was the east.

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And there I didn't even see the police coordinating things off.

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They just sort of sort of seemed to be off

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to the side or intermingling with people, which is very concerning.

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You would think if there was something that they, you know,

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were trying to get people to get out, or there

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was something really wrong going on, the police would have

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been like, Okay, lock arms, cordon people off, you know, push.

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Them out.

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Now, David, let me ask you this.

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Because you were arrested six months later, you were charged

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with six felonies. Prosecutors wanted to say that, you know,

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you know, they wanted you to lie. They wanted you

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to say things like Trump told me to do it,

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and they wanted you to testify against your own code defendants,

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which is egregious in itself. But I have spoken to

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several J six ers. One of them was Jeremy Brown,

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and he has often spoken about the pain that is

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inflicted intentionally by you know, we saw the corruption of

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evidence over four years Biden Harris's weaponized DOJ. We saw

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the overcharges with the fifteen twelve and the years of

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imprisonment just to force people like yourself to break under

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the pressure, that was the goal. Can you speak a

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little bit to that with regards to the crimes that

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you have been charged with, because they really smack of

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being politically motivated.

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Oh, it's not just smack of it. It absolutely motivated.

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And I think I think that's well established. But for example,

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they threatened us, They went as far as threatening us

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with life imprisonment.

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And the the.

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Ultimate goal was they wanted us to turn on Trump.

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That was the ultimate goal because January sixth, this whole

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setup was all about getting Trump.

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So we are just collateral damage, right, I mean.

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They don't care they kill babies, Why would they care

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about me or you know, why would they care about anything?

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Right, So, uh, we're just all collateral damage.

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So they came in they said, hey, we're going to

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push for life imprisonment because the addition is tantamount to treason.

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This this is their this is their legal rationale. It's

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tantamount to treason. Right.

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So, and they wanted us to take a deal. They

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wanted us to blame Trump. They wanted us to you know, implicate,

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of course, implicate Stuart Rhodes. They there was somebody, there

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was some somebody who was willing to say that Stuart

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Rhodes talked to Trump or got Trump on the phone

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or something like that. They never were able to prove

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any anything like that in court that Trump ever talked

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to Trump. That excuse me that Stuart Rhodes ever talked

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to Trump. But they were but they had to get

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the oath keeper and then they had to tie the

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oathkeepers to Trump. They were already tying the Proud Boys

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to Trump, because remember Trump said to the proud Boys,

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stand by is stand back and stand by, right.

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So they had a.

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Good tie there, and then they were trying to tie

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the oath keepers in and so this was this was

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something that they were trying to do ultimately to get Trump,

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and and none of us were taking it.

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I mean most of us.

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There were still you know, nine of us went to trial,

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and so many of them were holding out. And when

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they threatened us with life imprisonment, I think it was

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two more people then pled out. But you know, but

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I would not betray Trump. I would not betray my

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Code defendants. I would not betray the MAGA movement because

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you not only have to do that, but you have

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to you have to agree with their lie. You have

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to agree with the narrative. And it's not only gonna

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hurt Trump, It's gonna hurt every other defendant that comes through.

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Because every time somebody says, oh, yeah, I did it.

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I meant to do it.

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I was trying to stop certification. That makes it harder

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for every other defendant too. So, uh so that there

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was a huge moral uh you know, uh moral dilemma here.

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I'm I'm a Semetran seminary trained minister. You know, I'm

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gonna was an evangelist. So you know, I just I

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dug my heels.

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In by faith, and my wife and I we would

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you know, for two hours.

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I mean we literally we'd put the children to bed

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at eight o'clock and we would pray for two hours

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every night.

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And I mean sometimes we you know, my wife would

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be falling asleep.

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I'd say, honey, you you know, if we don't pray,

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then you can sleep all you want when.

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I'm in prison.

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Now I eventually ended up going to prison anyway, right,

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but you know, and then I would be like, sweetheart,

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I need to lay down and just and just just

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sleep for five minutes. Just give me five minutes, wake

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me up in five minutes. I'm gonna we're gonna pray again.

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And you know, we would just do this but just

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back and forth, just you know, keep each other awake,

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and we would just you know, we would just pray,

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and you know that's how that's how we held up

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to the pressure. I mean, there was really no way

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to withstand this kind of pressure in the mental anguish,

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you know, and especially you know, but especially before I

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was arrested. You know, I just we had three small

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children at home, and you know, I'm picturing the midnight raid.

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I mean, you know Caitlin wrote that book. You know,

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they came upon midnight rate. I mean, this was they

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were doing that right six o'clock, pointing guns at the children. So,

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I mean, you know, we lived in fear for six

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months that we were going to get raided. I think

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the Lord, I think it was just Lord's mercy. By

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the time they got to me, they had kind of,

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you know, gotten tired of the of the rate of

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raiding people, although they still were raiding other people in

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other states. Right, one of the oath keeper's family member

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of an oath keeper, it was like a year and

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a half later, and they raided her and her autistic

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she had two autistic children. They raided their home. Right,

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they were cooperating. All they had to do was say,

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you know, come and turn yourself in. But no, they

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had to rate them. I'm sorry, I'm getting fired up here,

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but but you know, there's unintentional consequences to not pardoning us,

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you know, because uh, you know, first of all, you know,

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we're we're viewed with greater suspicion. So I was at

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a Republican club meeting and spoken at a Republican club meeting,

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and and so we've got these the postcards, you know,

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and we've got letters to sign that we're sending to Trump.

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And I said, hey, you know, I said to a lady, hey,

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can I can you can you sign one of these?

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And she said, there's Republican conservative she probably you know,

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she voted for Trump, right, And she said no, because

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I think Trump saw something there and that's why he

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didn't pardon you. Whoa lady, Well you need to get

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get get in go to my website David dot com,

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because I mean it is so clear.

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I mean you you watched the video. There's nothing going on.

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It's boring, there's no there's nothing. We didn't do anything.

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They couldn't prove it in trial that we actually did something.

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They just had a complicit jury. So we're viewing with suspicion.

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And then another another thing is that by not pardoning us,

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it suggests that, well, maybe it suggests that Trump is thinking, well,

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maybe these guys actually did commit sedition. Right, So he

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didn't pardon us, so he's not offering us forgiveness.

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He just gets us out of jail.

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Right, So it looks like Trump is saying, well, maybe

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these guys really did commit sedition.

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And so that's very dangerous, Nick, because.

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What it does is it actually furthers the false narrative

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of insurrection. So I mean Trump, I mean, I just

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urged him to immediately pardon us, immediately issue a statement

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that these men did not commit sedition. There was no insurrection,

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there was no agreement, there was no conspiracy. Otherwise, if

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this is allowed to stand, I mean, hey, the deep

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state is gonna have a good day.

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And Nick, I don't.

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Know if you know this, but just two days ago,

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Julie Kelly reported that the Democrats are already queueing up.

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They're already having more January six hearings. They just had

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Harry Dunn, this guy that you saw in the video

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right who I think Steve Baker proved that he lied

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on the stand during the Oathkeeper trial. You can go

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to Steve Baker's work on YouTube. It's also linked from

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my website, David as Innocent dot com. But they had

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Harry done. This is just like two days ago, right,

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So why are these guys queueing up these January six hearings.

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There is a there is a void there because we

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as the make America great Again. The MAGA crowd are

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not getting the truth out about January sixth.

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They already have.

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They already have the fourteen of us who were not parted, right,

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and so that's already fueling their narrative.

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So they're just they're back out there beating the drum again.

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This is a very dangerous situation.

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Yeah, no, you are one hundred percent spot on. It

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is a very dangerous situation and we can't allow that.

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I really pray that the Republicans in Congress grow a

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spine of steel and say wait a minute, because my

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understanding is they were going to do some J six

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but it was another J six committee, but it was

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going to be a truth not led by another you know,

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unselected committee where it was just a basically a infomercial

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on how to demonize you know, Americans who showed up

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on January sixth to let their voice be heard and

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you know, bring concerns about an election that they saw.

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You know, Caitlin, I want to.

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Throw it to you because you have worked with these

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others who are waiting for their commutations to be evaluated

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for a pardon. Tell us a little bit about what

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is going on in the J six community to help

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this make further.

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Yes.

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Yeah, So one thing I've noticed just talking to David

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Michelle and then recently Stuart Rhodes, the founder of Oathkeepers,

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that I found very interesting is they were accused of

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seditious conspiracy, but yet when I talked to David Michelle,

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he doesn't really have good connections with most of the

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people on this postcard. Stuart Rhodes asked me for a

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list of the names of the people on this postcard.

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If they were doing something wrong on January sixth, if

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they were doing this seditious conspiracy that they were accused of,

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don't you think they would have a better working knowledge

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of who's even on this postcard?

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But or Stuart Rhodes, founder of both.

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Keepers, says, can you send me the list of names

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of who's on that postcard? I'm like, yeah, don't you

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kind of know them?

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Already.

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But so, I mean, I just find that really interesting

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00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.200
from an outside standpoint looking in. If you're accused of

473
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.359
seditious conspiracy with these people, it would seem like you

474
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.119
should at least have a working knowledge of each other,

475
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:24.240
you know, some connection. But the biggest thing we need,

476
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.839
like you talked at the beginning, it's not getting enough

477
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.480
attention that it should be. And I think the reason

478
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.359
for that is you kind of think everyone's out of prison.

479
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.599
You know, that's good, right, they're home and this will

480
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.640
work itself out. But as David Michelle would say, like

481
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.119
he can't provide for his family right now, he can't

482
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.559
pay the bills. He has to work as a construction

483
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.319
worker and just tell them what you usually do.

484
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.640
So, I'm actually a surgical neurophysiologist and I used to

485
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:58.119
work in the operating room with brain surgeons and orthopedic

486
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:00.960
surgeons when they're working on the brain or the spinal cord.

487
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:06.519
So very niche, you know, very niche specialty there.

488
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:07.799
And I love it.

489
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:09.519
And I've got two companies that are ready to hire

490
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.480
me back contingent on the party.

491
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.160
Yeah, And another thing that he mentioned that I thought

492
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.680
was a really good point is what they've done with

493
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:23.039
accusing the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys of seditious conspiracy. They've

494
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:27.680
set the precedent for seditious conspiracy so low that if

495
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:32.200
this doesn't get overtrned, if this doesn't change, then more

496
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.720
of us could be accused of this down the road

497
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.279
because that precedent they have taken it and said it

498
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:39.920
so low. So that's another huge reason that it's so

499
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.880
important that this gets overtrn and changed or this could

500
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.480
continue in the future.

501
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.000
And so the biggest go ahead, no, go ahead, go ahead, Okay.

502
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:50.720
So the biggest way you can help us is by

503
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.440
getting this message to Donald J.

504
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:53.000
Trump.

505
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.039
I know so many politicians, it seems like, have no

506
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.119
orgency when it comes to anything that involves we the people,

507
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.319
and that's what we need a primary a lot of

508
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:03.079
them and get them out of office. But we know

509
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.839
that President Trump cares, and if we can get one

510
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.359
of these postcards on his desk, I guarantee you he's

511
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.279
going to look at this and he's going to look

512
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.279
into this and have his team look into this. So

513
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.119
we're sending hundreds of these to President Donald J. Trump

514
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:21.000
at the White House. You can request them at Pardon

515
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.440
THEE fourteen dot com that's also on David's website David

516
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.559
Isinnocent dot com. And we will send you these postcards

517
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:28.480
free of charge.

518
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:29.960
We just ask that you.

519
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.440
Sign your name and put your state in zip code

520
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.279
at least city and state, just so we have an

521
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.119
idea that they're getting these from all across the country.

522
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.400
We have a map and we have I believe, over

523
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.960
thanty states already participating. But we need to get this

524
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.279
message to President Donald J. Trump asap so that these

525
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.279
families like David can go back to providing for their

526
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.160
families and that this can be overturned so that this

527
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.839
is not a problem we face again.

528
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:56.160
In the future.

529
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.039
Absolutely, and you're absolutely right now they have basically baked

530
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.400
it in. They baked in the president to you know,

531
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.480
so that you know it and it's only going one way, right,

532
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.200
if you're a conservative, then it's seditious conspiracy. If you're

533
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.119
out there burning down buildings, you know, in the middle

534
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.519
of the street, actually rioting, or you're actually a congressional

535
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.079
member saying hey, bring weapons with you, we're getting into

536
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.480
a street fight, then everything is good.

537
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.640
You know, everything is fine. Then, so you know, I'm.

538
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.759
Really praying that Cash Betel also and Pam Bondie, President Trump,

539
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.759
jd Vance I, you know, does this go to more

540
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.440
than just Donald Trump? Can we get it to Pam Bondie?

541
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.559
Can we get it to you know, uh, Cash Hotel,

542
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.240
Dan Bongino. Does it go to everybody?

543
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:51.880
Yeah?

544
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.839
So this is one thing we encouraged people to do.

545
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.160
If the JOm Brown post cards as well. So we've

546
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.480
already printed the address on that of President Trump, but

547
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.839
you could totally put a sticky label over that and

548
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.160
send this postcard to whoever you want to.

549
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.240
That would be very very simple.

550
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.720
You know, you could use some wide out put it

551
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.359
just a label over it, you know, or just put it,

552
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.319
stick it in an envelope and put their address on

553
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.279
it and send it to Cash Betel, send it to

554
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.839
pay On Bondie. You know, by all means, get this

555
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.319
message out to as many people as you can. And

556
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.640
that's why we request that you ask for more than

557
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.359
just one, ask for multiples and pass them out at

558
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.200
your Republican meeting, you know, pass them out at the

559
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:32.400
next mega rally whatever is near you where you know

560
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.000
that patriots are going to assemble. Who care about we

561
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:35.559
the people?

562
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:36.759
We know that the.

563
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.880
People are seen through the lies. We've seen that with

564
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.240
just even the COVID stuff and all. It's we the

565
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.759
people that have seen through a lot of the lies

566
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.920
the last few years, and it's the people that supported

567
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.480
the J sixes. We didn't see the politicians rally around

568
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.160
or support the J sixers the last few years. And

569
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.799
unless something changes, I don't think we're going to get

570
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.519
a lot of them on board. Unless there's a lot

571
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.519
of pressure in there in the public. Look right to

572
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.079
do that. But we know that we can do it

573
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.160
with we the people if we just continue to get

574
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.119
this message out to as many people as we can.

575
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.519
Send it to Cash Pattel, send it to Pam BONDI,

576
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.319
send it to Trump. But we just have to get

577
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.519
this message in front of them. Like David said, if

578
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.599
they can get a letter on his desk, they can get.

579
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:16.880
The pot in.

580
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.519
He's already issued a pod in for one of the

581
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.279
guys on that list who had a personal connection. So

582
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.119
it's just a matter of getting this in front of

583
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.920
him again because he has a lot on his plate.

584
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.799
Yeah, absolutely, David.

585
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.400
Let me ask you this, because you you've spoken about

586
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.559
you know, the information you know from you know Julie

587
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:41.799
Kelly and you know others who are out there, Steve Baker.

588
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.839
I mean, there's some been some great reporting and and

589
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.680
things that really need to come out. You know, still

590
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:52.000
the pipe bomber or you know, the fact of you know,

591
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.319
we're there were there weapons of sound or heat that

592
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.440
you know, created people to act in a way that

593
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.000
they normally wouldn't you know that that was unleashed on

594
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.160
that day. And I believe Steve Baker has has brought

595
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:09.920
those out.

596
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.200
But what I want to ask you is that.

597
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.200
You you spoke about you know, seditious conspiracy and and

598
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.400
and the issues surrounding that.

599
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.119
But how how.

600
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.240
Has this impacted you and your family?

601
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.680
Well, uh, I can give you.

602
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.759
I can give you an example of how it's how

603
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.920
it's affected for example.

604
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.599
My oldest daughter, she's nine years old.

605
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:45.359
One thing is, you know, we were the target of

606
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.000
of illegal surveillance. So my wife and I both of

607
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.799
our phones that we get weird clicks and beeps when

608
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.480
we would answer the phone. They're weird things that happened

609
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.079
with our you know. She thought she shut the computer

610
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.519
down one night, woke up in the middle of the night.

611
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.680
It was on monitoring network traffic. One day there was

612
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:08.719
a thirty gigabyte upload. That's not normal, thirty gigabytes being

613
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:09.840
uploaded to the internet.

614
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.760
There's some very weird things. So my children they're you know,

615
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.280
they're they're skittish about this. You know, that's just one

616
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.840
little area. But you know, this is you know, my children.

617
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.880
You know, I was a prisoner in prison for nine months,

618
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.760
and you know, I can only talk for fifteen minutes

619
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.920
a day. And my daughter wrote a song and I

620
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.480
can't sing it. I can't remember the tune. And also

621
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:33.920
I wouldn't be able to get through it if I

622
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:34.599
tried to sing it.

623
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.119
But I'll just I'll just tell it to you.

624
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.679
And so she said, it may feel as if the

625
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.400
road is about to have a big bend. It may

626
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.559
seem as if the sun will never rise again. But

627
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:50.119
take take courage, dear child. Your life will go on.

628
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:51.800
Someday you will.

629
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.599
Find yourself better than before. Someday you will find life

630
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.320
easier than before. So be brave, my child, for this

631
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.199
is not the and so be strong. So you know

632
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.519
she was she was nine years old.

633
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.480
I was a prisoner at a halfway house when she

634
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.039
wrote this, you know, and this is and I really

635
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.519
hear and Nick, I hear God speaking to her and

636
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.079
encouraging her in this. It was as if the spirit

637
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.280
of God was inspiring her in this song, you know,

638
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.039
to take courage and you know me seeing that the

639
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.400
sun did will not rise again, but take courage. Your

640
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.199
life will go on, it will be better, you know.

641
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.119
And I feel like God was encouraging her through this.

642
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.239
But you know, you can see and hear the pain

643
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.280
that that they that the children have been going through.

644
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.239
And then of course, I mean, you know, my wife

645
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.320
and I just our lives being completely destroyed.

646
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:41.719
Me. You know, it took all it took all our

647
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.880
money for the for example, the children's college fun we

648
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.679
were trying to save for a house. It took all

649
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.119
that money. Uh, you know, I haven't for almost two years.

650
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.920
I didn't even work. I couldn't even work for two years.

651
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.719
I mean, it's it's just been devastating. And you know,

652
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.480
my my wife and I have been married, will be

653
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.719
twenty three years this and you know, she's never.

654
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:04.079
Had her own home. We've never owned our own home.

655
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.440
We've always rented and never been able to paint a wall.

656
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.599
And I was really hoping to be able to give her.

657
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.800
You know, you know, we were in ministry for ten years, right,

658
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.199
so we weren't making any money when we were in

659
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.360
ministry for ten years. It wasn't didn't start making money

660
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.199
until I started in the medical field.

661
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.400
So anyway, so, I mean, it's just.

662
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:26.679
Been devastating, and you know, I don't need I don't

663
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.840
need charity. I need I need to parton. I need

664
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.519
to get my job because I can take care of me.

665
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.880
I can take care of my family. I've got the tools,

666
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.400
I've got the you know, the certification of everything. I

667
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.039
just need to I just need to be able to

668
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.320
go and put life back for my daughters and my son,

669
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:45.119
for my wife.

670
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.880
Need to give my wife a home. But I can't

671
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.039
do that without the Pardon. And that's why we need everybody.

672
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.239
We need all of your listeners to go to pardon

673
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.920
the fourteen dot com. Order the postcard. There is also

674
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.840
a way to do uh to send a that are online.

675
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.679
There's a way to do that.

676
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.199
Do both, okay, So order the postcards, sign the letter.

677
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.079
It'll taste two clicks, click click, put your name in address,

678
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.320
click you know, and at two clicks, but order the postcards,

679
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:15.440
take them to your church.

680
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.320
You know, I was. I was meeting with a guy today,

681
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:19.320
very influential guy.

682
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.320
I won't say his name, and he said David. And

683
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.840
he only confirmed my suspicion, but he said, David. January

684
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.199
sixth is on nobody's radar. Trump is busy, uh, busy

685
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.800
with everything. And he says, this is going to take

686
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.480
a lot to get this now. Caitlin, she've sent out

687
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:41.039
what thirty five hundred postcards already, she sent out she

688
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.840
ordered another three thousand. Go to magamous dot com. Send

689
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.239
her some money she has, she's been putting out a

690
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.000
lot of money. Give her, said, you know, send her

691
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.239
twenty bucks or whatever and help her with the postage.

692
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.639
But so we've got that going. And you know, we've

693
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:58.599
got another three thousand that are that have come in

694
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.599
already and we're sending those out.

695
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.760
Man. We just we just have to We're just gonna

696
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:03.199
have to push.

697
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.280
I think the problem is, Meg is that everybody thinks

698
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.880
that everybody's pardoned, that's it.

699
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.039
They don't know and uh actuality, no.

700
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:18.360
And and and as I explained earlier, with these unintentional consequences,

701
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:23.559
it's actually very dangerous to let this go without the party.

702
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.800
Oh yeah, oh yeah, because at some point in time, uh,

703
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.079
you know, we will we will more than likely get

704
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:37.039
another you know, democrat into office, or we will have

705
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.480
someone who may says they're a conservative and are not

706
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.280
a conservative. I mean, we know how the political game

707
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.639
is played, and uh, you know, we have to get

708
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:52.039
these things situated out. We have to have everything, the truth,

709
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.480
the timeline, the truth come out, and then we have

710
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.320
to have the you know, pardons put in place. We

711
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.400
don't want to leave any man behind. Now we've got

712
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:08.559
a video, Caitlin that you have put out about the project,

713
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.840
the Pardon the fourteen project. I want to play that

714
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.480
video and then I want you to kind of give

715
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us an idea of what the reaction is that you've

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been seen so far with these postcards.

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Sounds good, hey.

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Patriots, We'll add it again.

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We are urging President Trump to issue pardons and innocence

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to the remaining twelve j six patriots who are falsely

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accused of seditious conspiracy. As far back as seventeen twenty two,

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Benjamin Franklin won the sedition laws could be weaponized against

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free speech. The weaponized DOJ led by Joe Biden accused

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00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.000
patriots who went to the Capitol on January sixth of sedition.

725
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:53.719
These accused by Biden's weaponized DOJ had their sentences commuted

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by Trump with a promise to look.

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More closely at their cases.

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We are asking President Trump to issue paught in some innocence.

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To the remaining twelve J six patriots who are falsely

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accused of sedition.

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So here's how you can help. Go to the link

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below and.

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Fill out the simple form to request you are free

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postcards if you help with the nationwide postcard project for

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J six's whistleblow at Jommy Brown, then you know the

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drill postcards are pre addressed to President Trump at the

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White House. All you need to do is sign your

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name and address at least state and city and drop

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it in the mail.

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There couldn't be an easier way for.

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You and I to do something to help these remaining

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patriots make it across that finish.

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Line to freedom.

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To lawn more and watch a short video about these patriots.

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Go to www dot hordende fourteen dot com. Our model

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has not changed, no patriot left behind. May the Lord

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Jesus bless you and I'll be seeing you on the

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front line.

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Great job there, Caitlin, tell us a little bit about

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the re action that you've seen so far. I know

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at our state GOP convention there were people who were

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passing around the postcards and I was able to sign one,

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So tell us a little bit about that.

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Yes, that's awesome, And see I would be discouraged if

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it wasn't for people's responses that I get coming through

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all the time from the postcard project, but responses like this, Hi, Caitlin,

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we have our Oklahoma GOP state convention next Saturday, and

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we're wondering about trying to ask people there to sign

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the part in postcards that must have been yours. Do

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you know if it would be possible to get the

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postcards from you before then that was Sarah from Oklahoma.

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Then we have I'm so honored to be a part

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of our J six community family, still advocating for our

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J sixers. I think we'll be doing this for a

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long long time. I helped to send out postcards for

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g onm Me Brown and hopefully not the postcard project

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for a long long time. But advocating for people unjustly

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in prison and speaking up for those who cannot speak

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for themselves.

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That goes about saying thank you for doing this.

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We must not let tyranny continue. Hi, I hope that

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you get this message because I'm not sure if you

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got my last one. I would like to receive fifty

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As soon as I get them, I will mail them

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out and message the White House every single day until

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we get an answer. You have my wood on that.

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I was happy to have them on Thursday when I

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went to the mailbox. I bought the stamps yesterday and

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we'll be putting them together this weekend and getting them

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out starting on Tuesday during breakfast club. Thank you for

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all you have done and continue to do. I would

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like the postcards for a Patriot Citizens group that I'm

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pot of. I have spoken frequently about the plight of

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J sixers at our monthly meetings. The postcards will be

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a great way for individuals to contact the President on

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the issue of changing commutations to full pardons. And that's

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just a small small selection of just the comments that

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I've been getting from people, and that encourages me so much.

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That does otter people who caia.

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You know that means more than money a lot of times,

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just that you caa and that you're willing to do

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something and my family we went to was like the

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bean dinner. They always have the Republican Bean Dinner. We're

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invited by our state share, so we got to go

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and we my dad passed out some postcards there to

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like the teenage Republicans and they're like, oh, yeah, you

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guys were here talking about Jay six last time. And

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he's like, yeah, well, we're not done yet. We still

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got to get these guys pardoned, the oath Keepers and

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Proud Boys.

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So it's so.

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Simple and a lot of people are on board. They

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know what's going on. I say, you don't have to

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know everyone on the postcard. I know David Michelle and

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his family best. I've pen powered his Mega mouse's pen

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pound his daughter the last few years, so I'm doing

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it for them. You know.

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Maybe you know Oathkeeper Stuart Rhoades.

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I was on a radio broadcast with him and he's

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just got a great heart for just the oath Keepers

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that basically you you would understand this because you stood

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against the COVID tyranny and that's basically what the oath

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Keepers stand for. They are standing for we the people,

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and they're not going to do something just because it's

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my job. They're going to uphold, you know, the to

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protect and not just go, oh, it's just my job.

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I just have to do it. They actually think for themselves,

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and that's what we need. We need people in the

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medical field, in political office everywhere who don't just do

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it because it's their job, but because it's the right

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thing to do. I know two out of j six

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says Ryan Wilson and Stuart Rhodes talked about how they

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kind of got sympathy from like Ryan Wilson one of

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the guys who was processing him, and Annetta Stewart Rode

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some of the gods who were in the prison. But

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like Stuart Road said, if I jumped over the prison

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wall though, they would still shoot me. Well, they knew

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he was in there unjustly. But yet it's sympathy is

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not good enough. It's not good enough to be like,

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oh what that doing to you guys is terrible, but

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still go along to get along. We have to get

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past that mindset. And I think that's really where it

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comes down to in this country, and we saw that

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through COVID. How many people are willing to just bend

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the knee and just do it because it's my job.

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We got to get past that and start doing it.

837
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It's the right thing to do, even if we have

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to stand against somebody above us. And that's the only

839
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reason in the Holocaust and all these atrocities throughout history

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have been allowed to take place, is because evil only

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triumphs when good men do nothing. But please don't do nothing,

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do something. And an easy way to do that is

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we quest these postcards for the remaining twelve.

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Jay six is absolutely and thank you so much, very

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eloquently put, David.

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I want to give you the last word.

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Anything that you feel is important for our audience to

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hear and to understand.

849
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I think we need to understand the big context here

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because you know, there's also there's also these civil suits

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that are going on with January sixth. A lot of

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people don't know about that. This is the ultimate takedown.

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So there were three civil suits that came out of

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January sixth. I was named in one of them. Donald

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Trump was named in two of them. Some of the

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oathkeepers were named, and all three of them, some of

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the Proud Boys aimed at all three of them. They

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rolled up some of the two of the lawsuits, so

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that I was a co defendant with Donald Trump. Some

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people think that the reason why we weren't pardoned was

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because of these civil suits. That Trump wants to be

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able to examine these cases a little and then you know,

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examine them.

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And he knows and he knows that we didn't do it.

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Matter of fact, he's got Stanley.

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Woodward is now his number three at the Department of Justice.

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And Stanley Woodward was Kelly Meggs's attorney.

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Kelly Maggs was one of the oath keepers.

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So he's got an oathkeeper attorney who's, you know, intimately

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familiar with the case. And Stanley Woodward would say, yeah,

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they didn't.

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Do it right.

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So I mean, so big case, big picture is they're

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trying to get Trump, so they had these civil suits

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also that they're trying to get Trump. Paul Weiss was

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was the law firm that was involved in one of

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the cases. Paul Weiss was also the law firm behind

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the persecution and prosecution of Alex Jones for the Sandy Hook.

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They got a point four billion dollar judgment against Paul

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Weiss against Alex Jones through Paul Weiss.

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Paul Weiss was also suing us.

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ME and forty other Oathkeepers and Proud Boys, which was

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also then lumped in with a suit with Donald Trump,

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and Paul Weiss said, we're going for maximum damages. So

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they got one point four billion dollars from Alex Jones.

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How much do you think that they're going to go

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for for the January sixers, right?

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They said?

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Paul Weiss said of Alex Jones, they said, he's patient

890
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number one. Who do you think was gonna be patient

891
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number two? And all about these The civil suit for

892
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.960
Alex Jones was they were trying to shut him up

893
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and they said, we want him off the air, right,

894
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And so what do you think they're gonna they're trying

895
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to do with us? So you know, you got this,

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00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.760
get Trump, you got this attack on free speech. My website,

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David is Innocent dot com. There's a whole article that

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I wrote about how sedition as an attack of our

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accusation of seditions, attack on free speech.

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I encourage you to read that. But we just need

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we need to see the big picture.

902
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The bad guys are bad, and the deep state is deep,

903
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.199
and so the fight is not over. You know, the

904
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fight is not over. We got to keep pushing just

905
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because Trump's in the White House. Doesn't mean it's all

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00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.159
going to get better. It's probably going to get worse

907
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before it gets better in terms of the you know,

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00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:23.320
the fighting.

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Back and forth, you know, with the politics of all this.

910
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So just keep keep in the fight. Help us get free.

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Because nobody's free if we're not free.

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That's right, You're absolutely correct, David and Caitlin, I want

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to thank you so much for being with us today.

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We are grateful and we encourage everyone to be involved

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00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:49.400
in this petition to obtain a pardon for the remaining

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twelve J six ers.

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This is extremely important.

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David is Innocent dot com, Maga Mouse dot com, make

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sure that should go there.

920
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We've got those scrolling at the bottom.

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Make sure that you get involved, because without the freedom

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00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.440
of these J sixers, then that's going to leave the

923
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:15.039
door wide open for the next person who walks in,

924
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.159
who may not have the best intentions for you and

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I and the American people.

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It's really good to be with you all today.

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I want you to remember that resistance is not futile

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and blessings to you all always.

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It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's speak intention