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Now it's time for us to stand up, speak out,
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get involved, and let's be intentional. Today we are going
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to lean in with our guest, Pastor Casper McCloud. So
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get ready to be highly blessed as hearts, minds, and
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souls engage in listening to this ordained minister who experienced
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a miraculous healing from an incurable disease. He is also
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a virtuo so guitarist, singer, songwriter, artist, author. Okay, everyone
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buckle up and welcome with me Pastor Casper McLeod pastor, Hello,
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how are you today.
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Delighted to be with you. Thank you so much for
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inviting me on your program.
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Well, thank you for being with us. It is a pleasure,
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really an honor to speak with you. And can I
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tell you how excited I am to really talk with
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you today because this is fabulous for me truly, And
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I have to share this because as I was reading
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about the Upper Room Fellowship and just kind of going
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through a little bit of how it got started, for
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whatever reason, it brought me back to the time of
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the eighties, which were good for me. White Snake def
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Leopard and all of that. It made me think of
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rock star meets the spiritual rock that is Christ. So
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I am just really excited to kind of delve in
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and talk to ya, and I'm glad that you're with us.
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Before to speaking with you on this so, I think
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the world we grew up in isn't here anymore. It's
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been replaced systematically. In fact, I think it's becoming less
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and less like it was great to be at this point.
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And thanks to the Kingdom of Darkness and the you know,
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World Economic Forum gang, the Nazi raised glosh web and
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all that now we've got weaponized pathogens and none of
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the fogging technologies and using chemtrails with people that used
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to deny, and now there's too much evidence. You know,
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it's contaminating the food, water, everything, basically, So our bodies
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are no longer just fighting naturally occurring microorganisms, as you
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would well know as a nurse in your background. But
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now we're battling numerous engineered, weaponized pathogens and interact with
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their interacting with technology that you know bring harmful effects
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to our body, mindful and spirit. So how much more
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do we need to embrace the Word of God taking
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every thought captive to the immedience of Christ, which most
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of the Church apparently doesn't know how to do, and
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most of the modern church has never taught how to do.
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Second Brintains ten to five. In my book What Was
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I Thinking, which came up years ago, decades ago, at
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this point I wrote on a biblical perspective on epigenetics.
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So I was in a conference, and I do remember
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I was in Oklahoma at a prophecy conference and I shared,
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you know, how to take your thoughts captive? At one
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point and my presentation, I said, well, I wanted everybody
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to compare roos from ninety nine. As you know, probably
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one thousand people there and they're all going ninety nine outlawed,
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you know. I said, I'll simultaneously say the ABC's and
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there's always someone's going to try to go ninety nine A.
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I said, no, you've got to put them together. It's simultaneously, right,
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which can't be done, which is an incredibly brilliant news
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because that means you cannot entertain an ungodly thought, any
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godly thought at the same time you choose this day
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who you're going to serve, so we get like seventy
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thousand bars a day on average. I mean, I'm I
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said that on a TV interview one time. It was
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it was Lovely Hostess young lady was there, you know,
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hosting a show, and she said, well, not that probably
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means and females do at least twice that amount, so
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I'm not going to argue with it. But yeah, either way,
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we've got work to do right, show me my faith
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by my work right, So we can't just let any
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thought come wandering in and out of your mind. And
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sadly most of the church doesn't know how to do
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this or the the you know the whole Like, without
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the media and the television and all the rest of it,
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they could have never pulled off the twenty twenty scamdemic.
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There's no way they would have done it right. Because
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it's powered by spills of fear getting you to be
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as fellful as possible. Then you're easily manipulated by witchcraft,
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and that's what we seem to thing.
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As you know, I'm a nurse and I've taken care
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of hundreds, maybe even thousands of people with incurable diseases.
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My specialties are cancer, clinical trial and cardiac care. And
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I can tell you that fear, that negative thought, and
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what I term soul sickness, was a sure sign of
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difficulty ahead for treatment and survival. The whole body, physical
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and mental, in my experience, is driven by the spiritual soul.
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That's why this ministry is really so fascinating to me.
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To be honest, it struck me because you use the
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words restoration and relationship in your story and it spoke
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to me because that is the core and what I
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pray for every day. Your story and how the Upper
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Room Fellowship began is amazing. There was so much healing
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and it was on so many levels. Is that how
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it was? I mean, just please share, share that story
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with us.
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Yeah, I'm happy to share. And you know, we defeat
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the enemy by the words of our testimony. I was
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playing with some friends of mine called the Newsboys back
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in the nineties. I was just a guest artist and
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they brought me out to play and so I'm guessing
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that was very colorable. Ten thousand people and I'm out
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of a wonderful time. And after the concert, I realized
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my heart was beating really fast, like a couple hours later,
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which is not designed to do, and thinking that's kind
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of weird, you know what's going on with it? So
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I ended up checking into er and they told me
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I was going to die from an incurable heart disease.
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My friend Peter Phillis is the lead singer in the Newsboys.
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Used to be the drummer, then he became the lead vocalist.
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So the whole band found out the praying for me,
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and Peter said, my dad prayed for a blind guy
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in Australia. His dad was a minister who I've met
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a couple of times, really wonderful, lovely guy, and he
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prayed for this blind man and he received the sight
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and then another friend, Seth Barnes, is the head of
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the Adventures and Missions, and he sent me a lesser
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about some of the things miraculous that was going on.
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Because the churches I was in at that point, you know,
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like maybe you could pray for the cold, but don't
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ask God for anything big because he's busy run in
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the universe after all. And a lot of them thought
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that the gifts of healing and miracles passed away. Two
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thousand years ago, I had somebody challenging me one time
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in a in a I was speaking somewhere and he
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told me, stood up and said, you know, gives passed away.
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I said, here's my Bible. Come up here is you
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know one hundreds and hundreds of people show us. We
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all want to know where did the gifts of the
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healing and miracles passed away? So he summoned through my Bible.
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He's kind of look a see, he's stressed, you know,
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because he's most people are not comfortable in front of
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a crowd anyways, so of fears operating in him and
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all that. I finally helped him. I said, were you
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looking for first Queteen's thirteen? You know in that day
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they give the prophecy will pass away, and I read
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it in context from the Mezzic text of the King
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James says, and a knowledge will pass away. Comma, I'm going, well,
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if knowledge hasn't passed away, and it's in the same sentence,
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then prophecy hasn't passed away, and neither of the gifts
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of the Holy Spirit passed away. Now you're stuck. He
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actually came back a week later apologized to me publicly.
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So there is no such thing as an incurable disease.
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All things are possible without God. And when you mentioned restoration,
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our Lord is all about restoration, and it's all about relationship.
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He just wants to be involved with everything we're doing
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all the time. So I went through a pit of
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horrendous time at the point where they told me I
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couldn't perform anymore, that I couldn't ride a horse anymore.
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And I just acquired my horse at that time, and
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you know, at a friend came to talk to me
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about somebody else wanting to buy my horse since I
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wasn't going to be allowed to ride anymore. They put
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me on all sorts of terrible medications, and my eyes
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kind of teared up and he said, well, let's just
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keep praying, just keep believing God. So I had a
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miraculous experience in two thousand and one. I am with
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the doctor's off side. I went, I would never play
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with anybody's life. So when we find out somebody's offering
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is something, we want to find out, you know, a
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proper diagnosis, and then we know we're dealing with spiritually right,
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Like with cancer patients, almost without exception, there's some spirits
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of bitterness that have been allowed to be entertained in
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long term. I've had several cases where I prayed for
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someone and well, I've seen the Lord heal people from cancer,
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even stage four. So in this particular one with me,
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I I've gotten off all medication and I am pretty
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much severed my relationship with the medical doctor I was
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with because I wasn't going to do what he's asking
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me to do, and I'm not going to stop performing.
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I'm just going to carry on, you know.
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So I.
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Ended up at a church that started mentoring me on
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spiritual roots and diseases, and they asked me if I
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would come share my testimony a week after I got
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ordained in two thousand and one. So it's the third
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of July and my doctor came to see me because
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the day I got ordained, she told me, don't you know,
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take any more medications, because you've been on such a
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low dosage. It hasn't done anything for you for the
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last few months anyways. So I got completely off all
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the medicines, and she gave me a book called Dangerous Medicines,
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which shows how the adverse reactions is sometimes fifty percent
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going the wrong direction from what they put you on.
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And now we know how devastating a lot of that
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stuff is as well. It's like the devil puts diseases
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on people, then he comes along as a healer, puts
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his arm around and says, take a bill. Here, take
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a couple of bills. I told people who want to
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take a pill, take the pill. It's free, and all
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the side effects of beneficial. So I got off all
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the medications ordained, and the church I was affiliated with
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asked me to come share my testimony, play some music,
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play original songs, and that was the plan. And the
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Praise band found out I was going to be performing
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that night. They asked if I'd sit in with them,
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and I'm thinking, like I don't know any of your music,
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but yeah, why not. I'm up for a challenge. My
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doctor came with the mom who happened to be from England,
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and she was sitting in the front row with her
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and there was an empty seat next to them, and
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the place was you know, I'm guessing was probably three
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four hundred people in the congregation at night. And so
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I started playing with the praise band, and all of
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a sudden, my host started beaten like three hundred beats
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per minute, which you know, it's not designed to do that.
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And I heard an audible voice say, if you get
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off the altar now, you won't get healed. Now. I've
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been in a lot of recordings studios over the years,
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and I know you can't just materialize manifest of voice
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out of thin air. But it was clear as day,
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like we're speaking now, And I thought God would never
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say that to me. I don't know what that was,
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but it certainly not from the Kingdom of God because
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he would never say that. Besides, I was already healed
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by his straps. I was healed. We look back and
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you know zaire so he says, ah, I say a Zia. Well,
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the cool whole thing off. Now.
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Yeah, So I I just I didn't really know what
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to do with that moment, because I thought, you know,
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can I interrupt everybody and say, excuse me, you think
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I'm having a crisis, can we stop please?
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We're in the middle groose ship. And so I lay
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my guitar down, which up until that point I think
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guitars were like an extra appendage. But I just let
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go of my guitar and I was just standing there,
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leaning against the filler on the stage and I heard this,
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and half of the Praise band heard. It was like
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the celestial music started playing where I stopped. It's like
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the Chicono Glory of God. It just kind of come
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in and I remember hearing it in part of the
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band looked around, like, what's McLeod doing on guitar? That's
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really extraordinary? In England while he's not doing anything, he
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looks white as a ghost. But I just want to
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remind you I'm with the holy ghost, not the friendly ghost.