April 9, 2025

Unavoidably Unsafe

Unavoidably Unsafe

The CDC Immunization schedule from utero to 12 months has increased from 5 in 1986 to 33 in 2025. The significance of this is staggering.

Preliminary studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children have reported that the vaccinated are...

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Season 1

The CDC Immunization schedule from utero to 12 months has increased from 5 in 1986 to 33 in 2025. The significance of this is staggering.

Preliminary studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children have reported that the vaccinated are significantly more likely than the unvaccinated to be diagnosed with bacterial infections, allergies, and neurodevelopmental disorders.

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Intention Hello and welcome to Intentional.

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because it's time for us to stand up, speak out,

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get involved, and let's be intentional. Ladies and gentlemen. Have

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you seen the CDC's immunization schedule. Take a look at this.

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I cannot imagine all of these vaccinations for not just children,

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but for adult It seems to go on and on

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and on. But you know what, here's a better visual. Now,

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how did we go from five vaccinations for you to

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row to twelve months? In nineteen eighty six? To thirty

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three in twenty twenty five. It seems a little excessive

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to me. It's really mind boggling that we are being

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trained to believe that the human body has been created inferiorly,

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that the human body is designed so weak, so frail

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and broken, that babies must have thirty three shots from

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you too to twelve months. It's really beyond me. Everybody, America,

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we are injecting our infants with more vaccines in their

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first year than anywhere else in the world. Why why now?

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My goal is not to go on a bash about vaccines.

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My belief is that we should have a better understanding

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of their impacts, their risks, their benefits, and really have

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conversations so that we can gain insight into the research

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such as this, where these researchers have concluded that the

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results suggest that the current vaccination schedule may be contributing

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to multiple forms of neurodevelopmental disorders. That vaccination coupled with

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pre term birth was strongly associated with increased odds of

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neurodevelopmental disorders compared to preterm birth in the absence of vaccination,

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and increasing numbers of visits that included vaccinations were associated

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with increases of autism spectrum disorders. So thank goodness, today

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we have doctor Jeffrey Barkey, a board certified primary care

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physician who has been in the private practice sector for

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over twenty five years. He is also co author of

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the book Unavoidably Unsafe, a Childhood Vaccines Reconsidered, and he's

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going to be delving into this topic with us now.

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Doctor bark is also the author of COVID nineteen, a

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physician's take on the exaggerated fear of the coronavirus and

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warning message dispelling the myths You've been told about optimal health.

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He is a commission officer in the US Army Reserve

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Medical Corpse and also he is a well course, did

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I say corpse? I always do that. I hate it

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when I do that, anyhow, core Anyhow, he is a

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proud founding member of America's Frontline Doctors and co host

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of the podcast Descentmedia dot com. So please give a

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huge welcome with me to doctor Jeffrey Barkey. Hello, sir,

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how are you hey met?

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Great to be with you, Thanks for having me on.

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And by the way, I own two cats, Larry and Winston,

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just so you'd know. So in case you see some

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fur on my scrubs. I often have to lint roll

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every day because Larry and Winston get all over me.

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Oh, I love it. Dax would be so please to

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meet them. What kind of cats are they?

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Are you, squirrel of They rescue cats from the animal shelter,

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but Larry looks to be mostly Siamese and Winston is

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probably a Russian blue.

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Oh oh, I just love it. Ours is a rescue

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as well, but he's more main coon. But he thinks

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he owns everything and he probably does. You know. Well,

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I want to say thank you so much for coming

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on the show today, sir, and I kind of want

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to jump right in because the topic of vaccines, particularly

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with regards to babies and children, is growing concern. I

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hear it all the time no matter where I am.

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And it's not just parents, it's you know, all of

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those who are out there who are just like me,

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that are nurses, that are going what in the world

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is happening here? We have these reports of this exponential

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rise in cardiovascular and neurodegenerative diseases and deaths that's associated

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with the gene therapy countermeasure aka the COVID injection. And

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now that's part of the CDC immunization schedule. But it's

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also sure that there is this exorbitant amount of vaccines

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that has been added to the schedule over the last

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what decade or two, and these potential toxic substances that

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you know, maybe in the vaccines or toxicity concerns that

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are associated with the vaccines. I mean, the safety, the

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efficacy of current vaccine practices, and really the rise of

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like the research that I was just showing of this

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neuro developmental disorders like autism, autoimmune conditions, allergic reaction. I mean,

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all of this leads to so many questions, sir, especially

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surrounding harm. And of course they're labeled as controversial, although

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I would think that being informed and being educated and

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having common say conversations about this is just common sense.

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But I'm gonna digress here. I understand that vaccines, doctor Barkay,

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are supposed to provide immunity and protect our bodies against

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harmful diseases. But if you look at the childhood's schedule,

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I am gobsmacked by the fact that we have these

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massive shots, multiple COVID, multiple flu hepatitis B.

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Sir.

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There these babies aren't having sex and they're not doing

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IV drugs. So this, in my opinion, is overkill. It

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smells like profit versus necessity or need. So why would

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a healthy baby or newborn need all these vaccines in

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the first year of life.

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We'll make those are some great questions and great comments

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that you had. I think what's important for your audience

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to know is a couple things. I'm not anti vacs.

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I think a parent should be in the position to

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make the best decision for their children only after informed consent,

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meaning they need to be educated about each individual vaccine

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that a doctor wants to give their kid. It educated

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from the standpoint what were the safety studies that brought

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them to market, What are the ingredients in any particular vaccine,

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What is the efficacy the ability of that vaccine to

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actually stop whatever disease it is that they're being treated for.

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And what do we know about the manufacture of these

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vaccines as well? So to begin with, there's two important

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components that I want every parent to know. Number One,

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every vaccine company is immune from liability that occurred in

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the mid nineteen eighties, which means if you're injured by

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a vaccine, regardless of which one, by the way, this

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includes both childhood and adult vaccines. If you're injured by

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a vaccine, you have no recourse against the manufacturer. Is

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there any other commercial entity that we would participate with

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that made a product that was immune from liability that

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we would buy? And then number two, the FDA requires

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there be a package insert for every vaccine, very carefully crafted.

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It's done with FDA and pharmal lawyers and so forth.

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It's in very small print. It's very science y. It's

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hard to read. I had to train myself to do this.

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And the sections of the package insert are identical. Section

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one is the same in all package inserts and so forth.

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So there's a package there's a section in the package

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insert and it's section thirteen point one. And by the way,

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don't believe anything I'm saying. You should do your own research.

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You have a moment right now. Google package insert section

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thirteen point one. It says something like, and I'm paraphrasing,

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this vaccine was not tested to see if it causes

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cancer or may affect reproductive health. So we're giving these

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products to often young kids, and as you point out,

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even newborns, and we have no information. They were not

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tested to see if possibly they could cause cancer and

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or cause problems with the child's reproductive health. I'm not

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saying you should therefore not get the vaccine, but what

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I'm saying is you should at least be aware of it.

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Then you should look at the actual ingredients of the vaccine,

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like what's in it. And in many cases there are

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things called adjuvants. Those are chemicals that are purposely designed

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to stimulate the immune system so it wakes up and

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sees whatever the viral antigen is that's part of the vaccine.

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And those adjuvants can be things like aluminum. For example,

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an aluminum we know is a neurotoxin. And so maybe

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if they got one vaccine or two or five, as

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were the case back in the early nineteen eighties, and

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maybe that's not a big deal. I don't know, but

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I would want parents to know about it. The current

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vaccine schedule, as you point out, in California, which is

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where I live, where there are no vaccine exemptions. You

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cannot get a medical exemption, you cannot get a religious exemption.

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The only loophole is homeschooling. That in order for a

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kid to get through high school, they're going to receive

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approximately seventy five jabs to meet the CDC in California

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vaccine requirement. Again, you should decide as a parent, I believe,

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under no circumstances should any vaccine ever be mandated as

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a prerequisite to attend school, to get a job, to

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go to college, or even enter the military. It should

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not ever be mandated. Because, Mick, if these things are

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so good, and they're so safe and effective, then may

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the case to the American people, and I trust them

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to make a good decision, since one, since when do

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we have to mandate something that is so safe and effective?

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And that's what we're doing. So we can talk about

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the individual vaccines. If you want the craziness of the recommendation,

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you give a two day old hepatitis B be like, boy,

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you right, It's a sexually transmitted disease, has approximately two

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hundred micrograms of aluminum in it. Why why on God's

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earth do we give a newborn baby a vaccine against

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a sexually transmitted disease that they will not be at

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risk for for hopefully, you know, eighteen thirty years. There

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is no reason to put that product in a newborn

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You can talk about vitamin K as well. It's not

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a vaccine, but the American Pediatric Association recommends every single

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newborn born in the United States with oh exception, receives

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vitamin K as an intramuscular injection within two hours of birth.

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Don't believe me, audience, Read the package insert for vitamin K.

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It's got the strongest black box warning that the FDA

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can put on it. A black box warning is a

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warning short of the FDA pulling a product from the market.

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Read it. Read the black box warning for vitamin K.

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It basically says, you know, death and destruction. So I

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think every patient that I see needs to be individualized.

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Maybe there's a role for vaccines and unique situations or

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other products, even pharma products. But to blanket the country

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with the CDC's recommendation and not allow exemptions is wrong.

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It's unethical, and I think is harmful.

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Absolutely, and I'm so grateful that you brought up exemptions.

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Now I'm here in the state of Oklahoma, they do

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allow for a full exemption from vaccines. You have to

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go to the health department and you can fill out,

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but you don't have to have your child vaccinated for

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any of them. In order for them.

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You shouldn't have to go to the health department. You

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should just be able to say thank you, no, thank you,

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I'm good and again if these things are here's what

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else I want your parents to know. This is true

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research it don't believe me. Not a single childhood vaccine,

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not one was ever tested in a randomized control trial

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against an inert placebo like saline. Not one of them.

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How is that possible? Because the FDA has a much

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different standard for approving vaccines than they do for drugs.

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That needs to change. I'm hoping that Bobby Kennedy Junior

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gets that to change, and to get the safety profile

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of these vaccines up and running so we can be

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sure that these products are safe. So far, by the way,

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the COVID vaccine is still listed on the CDC website

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as a recommendation for six month olds. Never mind that

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six months olds and children simply aren't even susceptible to COVID.

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They do just find it's like a bad cold. And

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never mind that these COVID vaccines actually don't stop infection

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or transmission. But I think if Bobby Kennedy can do

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two things, I will be thrilled. Number one, he needs

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to remove the liability protection from the vaccine companies. Number two,

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he needs to remove the allowance to allow pharma companies

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direct to consumer advertising on TV. We're the only country,

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US and New Zealand that allows that. You can't watch

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a sporting event. The NCAA Championship Finals were recently and

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it was just littered with pharma ads and vaccine ads

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and so forth. We need to stop that. By the way, Mick,

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do you know why pharma advertises on TV. It's not

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to influence consumers to use their product. Maybe it does

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that around the margins. It's to influence the newsdesk not

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to publish anything that discredits or is negative towards the

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pharmaceutical company. They force these news desks not to bite

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the hand that feeds them. And by the way, the

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same is true of the so called big reputable journals

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Journal of the American Medical Association, the New England Journal

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of Medicine, etc. The Lancet out of Great Britain. These

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are all heavily funded and advertised by pharma. Do you

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think they're going to publish articles that are critical of

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the vaccine industry or pharma industry. If a bunch of

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their revenue. It comes directly from those companies. Oh heck no,

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So this needs to change. The funding mechanism of the

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CDC and the FDA need to change. Then we've got

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Yes, you know, you have brought up some topics that

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to talk about some of the vaccines themselves. I'd like

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to point out that the autism rate used to be

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one in ten thousand, and now it's something like one

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in thirty six. And in your book you really unravel

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a lot about you know, not just autism, but you know,

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other adverse events as well. But could you kind of

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lay out maybe a little synopsis of the childhood vaccines

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and their impact on public health?

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specifically the MMR measles, mumps, Rubella Rebella's German measles and

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autism spectrum disorder correlation causation, I don't know, but it

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needs to be studied. The truth is, in nineteen eighty three,

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early nineteen eighties, you're right, autism was about one in

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ten thousand, one in ten thousand. Now fast forward to

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twenty twenty and it's about one in thirty six. During

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that time, we went from the cd schedule of about

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ten vaccines to currently about seventy five jabs that a

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child would get. Now, I get it. Causation doesn't mean

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or correlate. Correlation doesn't mean causation. Unfortunately, Bobby Kennedy Junior

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has now asked the CDC to start researching and reopen

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the case of looking at vaccines and autism. Is there

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a direct link? I think so, But there's a lot

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of other things going on as well, like processed foods,

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environmental toxins, fluoride and chlorine in our drinking water, et cetera,

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et cetera. So there's more to the picture than just vaccines.

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But vaccines questionably play a role in chronic illness. Our

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children have never been sicker than they ever have in

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the history of this country. Estimated about fifty percent of

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our children are obese and have some level of chronic

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illness diabetes, asthma, allergic rhinitis, various allergies. I mean, if

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you're listening and you have a kid in school, we

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all know that peanut allergies are rampant. When I was

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kid that had peanut allergies. Why is that? Well, I

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think it does have a lot to do with the vaccines. Imagine,

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for example, that I give you a vaccine or your

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little kid a vaccine that has a powerful adjuvant, an

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immune stimulating product in it, and they get that vaccine

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at they're pediatrician. Then they go home and they eat

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a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Now I've just put

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an antigen peanuts into their body while their immune system

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or allergic rhinitis because it's in the spring and the

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pollen is high in the air, and I just now

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boosted their immune system to wake up to everything that

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they're being exposed to. And then repeat that over and

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over and over again, seventy five times, and you can imagine,

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and you can start to see why there may be

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a correlation between chronic illness, allergies and the vaccine schedule.

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It's not perfect, it's not perfectly correlated or causated. But

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shouldn't we be studying this. Shouldn't the CDC, the Centers

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for Disease Control, that's their job. Shouldn't they be shouldn't

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they be studying that, like it's an emergency and some

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of the other garbage that they actually study, maybe it's

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not so important. I hope Robert F. Kennedy Junior, under

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his role at the Director of HHS Health in Human Services,

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what is that? As a reminder, Health and Human Services

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is an umbrella organization under which sits the CDC, Centers

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for Disease Control, FDA, Food and Drug Administration, NIH, National

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Institutes of Health, and the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare.

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he now oversees, and I hope you can get us

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headed in the right direction.

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is that they give these injections in multiples. I mean,

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it's not just one at a time. They're like shot shot, shot,

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shot shot. That seems to make a difference in my

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experience or my business.

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Check this out, Mick's it's almost this could almost be

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a Babylon b post. Actually I did this post. I

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did a fake post that they came out with a

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new vaccine called total vax and it held twelve vaccines

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in it and LiPo nanoparticles. You only needed one when

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you were first born, and it lasted through high school.

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you kidding? Is this real? Because it actually could be real.

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But there is a vaccine called Vaxalis b A x

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E LS. It's got six vaccines in one countum DTP

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that's three IPv, that's polio, hib homophlus, influenza B, and

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hepatitis B. That is six vaccines in one I mean,

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it's insane. And it's part of the ingredients. We call

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them excipients, things that are in the vaccine to help

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them get into the body and work is. Here are

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the ingredients in vaccalis polysorbed eighty Google polysorbede eighty and

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what this is. It can cause leaky gut, it can

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cause intocrine disruption. It's even been associated with cancer. It

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also has formaldehyde in it yet for valdehyde that we

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use to embalm bodies after somebody dies. On and on

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and on. There's even an antibiotic in it called polymix

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and b ammonium, yeast proteins and aluminum This is all

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in vaxalists who wouldn't want to sign up for that.

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immune from all liability. They don't care. They just produce

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these vaccines. Any new vaccine that's added to the childhood

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vaccine schedule is a one billion with a b dollar

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annuity to the vaccine company. They don't even have to advertise.

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primary care doctors, pediatricians, and pharmacies. They don't even have

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to advertise this stuff and it comes flying off the shelf,

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and you know, and and racks up dollars to the

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Absolutely and you brought me right where I wanted to go,

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because one of the biggest concerns has been legislation that

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has been put in place. It was supposed to address

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the growing concerns about vaccine safety. But then it, like

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you talked about, it, granted these vaccine manufacturers legal liability

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from lawsuits. It protects them from their financial liability related

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to any kind of vaccine related injury. So you talked

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about the nineteen eighty six Vaccine Injury Act, and they

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even admitted themselves that the vaccines come with unavoidable harms,

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and of course the prep back that you know that's

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being used for COVID and any other pandemic that comes along.

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Play a short clip for you, sir. It's by doctor

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Peter McCullough. It was in nineteen in twenty twenty four

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when he spoke to the Arizona Senate novel Coronavirus Southwestern

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inter Governmental Committee. That's a long time.

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By the way, The scroll here should be unavoidably unsafe.

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Unavoidably unsafe, and that is and that is on You

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can get it at Skyhorse. That's our publishing company. The

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for it is by Dell Big Tree, and of course

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it's also available on Amazon. Unavailable Unsafe Childhood Vaccines reconsidered.

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Yes, absolutely, and we can make that that change. Rebel

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will do that for us on the backside. There you go,

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She's got it. We live Rebel. You bet, you bet.

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We're so sorry about that. Let me play this clip

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for you by doctor Peter McCullough, and then I'd like

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to get your reaction to it.

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Sure, And I think that this is a point where

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I would normally I would look over at mister siri

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and say, and so then all of these manufacturers have

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zero liability of these for these vaccines, for injury from

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Congress wrote the Vaccine Injury Compensation Legislation, And in that

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legislation it's said that vaccines have all of them have

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unavoidable harms. And the reason why they're unavoidable is once

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the injection occurs, you can't get it out of the body,

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so it's unavoidable. When a side effect starts to happen,

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you can't stop it. And because of that fact, vaccine

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companies were saying, listen, we're going to pull our products

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off the market because we're getting sued over and over again.

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vaccine companies.

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By law that they are immune.

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From any lawsuits. So if anybody has a problem, it's

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basically you cannot go after the company that has been

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carried forward with the COVID nineteen vaccines. It's not only

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the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act that could be used as

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is a liability shield, but it's also the PREP BacT.

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The PREP Act is written in two thousand and five

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between HHS and Congress, and has said in a pandemic,

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anything we do in a pandemic that's considered countermeasures, including vaccines,

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useab remdesivier and the other drugs that they are immune

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from any liability.

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So you spoke about this in your book Unavoidably Unsafe,

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and I'd love it if you could just kind of

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touch maybe expand a little bit on this and it's

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implications for vaccine safety because this is egregious.

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Well sure, I mean think about it. First of all,

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Peter McCullough is a dear friend. We've interviewed him about

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a dozen times on our podcast. He's associated with his

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wonderful company called The Wellness Company, which makes a variety

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of products, including detox products. But he is absolutely correct.

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I mean, imagine why in the nineteen eighty did we

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have a handful of vaccines and suddenly we now have seventy? Well?

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Why Well, because it's a perfect business model. You can

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make a product. The FDA approval process is very different

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for drugs. You don't even have to test them against

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an inert placebo in a randomized control trial. Then when

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you get it to market and it's on the schedule.

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By the way, about fifty percent of the funding of

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the CDC comes from the pharmaceutical industry. Can you say

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conflict of interest? Then you get the vaccine on the

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CDC schedule, and then it's a billion dollar annuity and

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the money comes rolling in and you have no downside risk.

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I would like this business model. I would like the

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government to mandate patients have to come see me and

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I don't even need to carry them out practice, because

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if I screw up, I have no liability. Anybody listening

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that has a business, how would you like that business model?

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And somebody needs at your restaurant and they get ill,

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You've got liability if you've created a product and there's

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food poisoning or your or your product is spoiled, or

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any other company your airbag goes off suddenly on the

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freeway because there was no accident and it malfunctioned. Do

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you not think that ord or Chrysler or Mercedes or

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whoever doesn't have liability if there is a manufacturer defect,

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of course, but the vaccine companies don't have that, and

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so that needs to be repealed. Patients, families, parents need

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to be aware of this, and we need to revisit,

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in my opinion, the whole notion of the safe and

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effective vaccines, because we know COVID isn't. It's neither safe

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nor effective, and it should be pulled from the market

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immediately and a thorough investigation launched as to how this

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thing came to market and was allowed to come to

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market with what these vaccine companies knew about it. And

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then ultimately Anthony Fauci needs to be held response and

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he needs to be tried.

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Yeah, applause, applause. In fact, here in Oklahoma, we actually

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have submitted a brief to our Attorney General by the

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Viers Law Group and we're working with the former FEDS

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group Freedom Foundation as well. But we have people who

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have come forward. Now this is for the hospital protocols,

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but the hospital protocols because they didn't do early treatment

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and they wouldn't allow anybody to have anything but remdsevere

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and the whole you know, ventilation, starvation, dehydration. But those

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protocols really raised the fear factor and pushed everybody to

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an unsafe, unaffective vaccine. So we are trying hard to

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get Fauci prosecuted on state level charges using RICO statutes.

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chapter twenty one five questions to ask your pediatrician or

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whoever is giving your vaccine. So if you know nothing else,

464
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.759
ask these five questions, Like one of them is, well,

465
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.559
how likely is my child to get the illness that

466
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.440
you're vaccinating them against them? Look at tetanus for example,

467
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:22.000
why don't we give kids tetnis shots? The risk of

468
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:26.000
tetanus is so infinitesically small. You google how many cases

469
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.000
of tetanus there are in the United States in a year.

470
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.559
It's tiny, It's a handful. And questions like, hey, doc,

471
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.680
have you actually read the package insert for this vaccine?

472
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.759
And can you explain it to me? If those are

473
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.680
some of the questions that you should be asking before

474
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.960
you allow any doctor to stick a needle in your

475
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.599
child's arm.

476
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.839
Absolutely, And I think we need to start asking about

477
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:57.359
the fact that none of these vaccines were properly safety tested.

478
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.200
I saw this post from I CAN the Informed Consent

479
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:07.200
Action Network, and you spoke of this as well. None

480
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.240
of the vaccines had any kind of proper safety testing

481
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:17.759
with long term, placebo controlled trials, So how can we

482
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:24.720
even be assured that they are protective. So in September

483
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.839
of twenty twenty three, apparently the World Council for Health

484
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:34.759
was urging parents to consider childhood vaccination very carefully. They

485
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:41.200
called it a common sense, safer to wait approach to vaccines. So,

486
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:46.039
in lieu of what we know, sir, how can the

487
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.559
medical community act upon this or make enough noise to

488
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:56.880
maybe you know, reverse some of this. Have get to

489
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.359
Robert F. Kennedy Junior and ask for me be a

490
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.400
moretorium across the board.

491
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.519
Well, at minimum, we should remove any vaccine mandates. The

492
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.079
problem here is pediatricians and many primary care doctors about

493
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.239
fifty percent of the money that they make come from

494
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.960
providing well trild checks and vaccines, and well child checks

495
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.960
are nothing more than a ruse to get the kid

496
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.559
in to be consistent with the CDC vaccine schedule. Come

497
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.599
in at two months, and four months and eight months

498
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.280
and so forth. The main reason that we do that

499
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.320
is because it correlates with the vaccine schedule. And pediatricians

500
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.519
make money billing insurance on the well check they come

501
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:41.360
in and they get measured and so forth, and they

502
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.679
make money on administering vaccines. They buy the vaccines at whoslesale.

503
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.039
They then build insurance or the patient at a much

504
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.039
higher rate and make profits on both and about fifty

505
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.880
percent of pediatricians revenue come from that process. Do you

506
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.559
think they're going to be on the forefront of recommending

507
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.159
changes to the vaccine schedule or safety. There's an outfit

508
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:09.280
in Orange County called Memorial Care, and they will not

509
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.119
allow a child into their practice that does not want

510
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:17.079
to be vaccinated. They will not even follow an alternative

511
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.599
vaccine schedule. If a parent wants their kids vaccinated much slower,

512
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.880
wants to delay vaccines, they will not even take care

513
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.599
of patients like that. Well why would that be Well,

514
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.760
in part, if they're not coming in to be vaccinated,

515
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.000
then they're not making money off that child. Also, if

516
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.320
they're not coming in to be vaccinated, then they're less

517
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.880
likely to have chronic illness, which then would prompt additional

518
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.960
visits to the pediatrician. So I think what they're doing

519
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:48.880
is unethical, harmful, and inappropriate from a medical provider. And

520
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.519
more and more pediatricians i'm learning won't see kids that

521
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.519
aren't going to be vaccinated. Of course I never do that.

522
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.719
I respect parental rights, I respect the of a parent

523
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.679
to make that decision for their kid, whether they want

524
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.159
them vaccinated or they want to keep them unvaccinated. But

525
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.360
that's very challenging, especially in the state of California.

526
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.599
Yeah, and so it sounds like it's going to have

527
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.039
to be something from the federal level. It's going to

528
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.360
have to be something from the HHS secretary.

529
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.000
Sure, there are a couple of lawsuits in California going

530
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.360
on now, and I think they will win to bring

531
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.039
back at minimum religious exemptions, your religious exemptions. We're all

532
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.599
familiar with what's going on in Texas with measles and

533
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.679
the MMR vaccine. There is no measles vaccination. In order

534
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.920
to get a measles vaccination, you have to get the

535
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.480
combo of measles, mumps, and rubella and the rebella portion

536
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.639
of the MMR vaccine is one of those vaccines that

537
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.880
has grown in a borded feedal tissue. And it's not

538
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.280
right that we don't allow a religious person to opt

539
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.519
out of that. And we keep hearing about measles deaths,

540
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.719
and of course that's so tragic, and any parent that's

541
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.199
lost a kid is a horrible, horrible tragedy that happens

542
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.119
sometimes in vaccinated and unvaccinated kids. But there's been a

543
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.400
handful I think two or three now of measles cases

544
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.639
that have led to death, and boy, that breaks my heart.

545
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.840
But we need to put things in perspective. I don't

546
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.039
know if you knew this, but there's about twelve hundred

547
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:25.519
kids every year that die in motor vehicle accidents. There's

548
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.519
just short of a thousand kids every year that die

549
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:34.119
because of drowning, and that's horrible. Is anybody talking about

550
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.599
banning swimming pools or going back to the horse and buggy?

551
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.480
Of course not. There are certain things that we do

552
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.000
that we do and we know that there is risk,

553
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.320
and vaccines should be the same thing. Is there a

554
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.639
role for them? Absolutely well. Getting a measles, mumps and

555
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.400
rubella vaccine reduce the risk of you getting measles, of

556
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.480
course it will. But are there risks associated with it? Yes,

557
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.920
read the package insert and a parent should make that determination.

558
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:10.159
Risks versus benefits never ever mandates in my opinion.

559
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.320
Yeah, and some of this is a little bit of

560
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:18.920
in my opinion, a hype, especially the one young girl

561
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:25.079
who was in Texas. She was part of the Amish

562
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.920
like community. She didn't even vaccinate the men of nights, yes,

563
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:33.280
thank you. And she didn't get a a measles vaccine,

564
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.519
none of them, do you know, she didn't get an

565
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.360
MMR and then they blamed it all on measles. But

566
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.800
it sounded like this young lady really had pneumonia that

567
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:43.000
was untreated.

568
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.000
That's true, and you know, talked about Peter McCullough. He

569
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:48.079
reviewed this as well, and he's done posts on this.

570
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.559
She died because of medical mismanagement. That doesn't mean she

571
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.639
didn't have measles, she did, but she got a secondary

572
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.239
infection that was mismanaged. Now that's not helpful for the

573
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.920
parents that lost a kid, for sure, But we just

574
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.920
always need to have informed consent. What are the risks,

575
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.880
what are the benefits, what are the studies that brought

576
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.960
the product to market? What are the ingredients? Read Package

577
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.719
thirteen point one, Section thirteen point one, and then make

578
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.679
the best decision that you can based on the knowledge

579
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.760
of informed consent. We should never mandate these products in my.

580
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:29.400
Opinion, absolutely, And speaking of informed consent, when I worked

581
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.960
bow marrow transplant, you know we used to give people

582
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.679
with leukemi or myloma high dose chemotherapy total body of radiation,

583
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.280
and then later on, once they had a repopulation of

584
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.840
the stem cells you know, from someone else, we would

585
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.719
have to reimmunize them. Well, I can tell you, sir,

586
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.599
that we would give the shots, and the informed consent

587
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.079
was more something like you're going to have soreness in

588
00:39:56.119 --> 00:40:01.280
your arm. There wasn't an informed consent. And so you

589
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:07.599
had talked about the practical guidance that you recommended for parents.

590
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.639
What are some of the things that and you talked

591
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.760
about the fact that even some of the physicians won't

592
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:19.920
see children that aren't vaccinated. What about parents bringing information

593
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:26.199
to their healthcare providers to say, listen, this is what

594
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.519
I've got, this is the information. No, I mean, is

595
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.400
there a way to have that conversation to maybe change

596
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.719
the tide of the current thinking.

597
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.280
I would certainly hope. So. I think there are plenty

598
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.480
of doctors, primary care and pediatricians that will have that

599
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:48.079
conversation that are open to the idea that the vaccine

600
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:52.000
schedule as written may not be the best schedule, that

601
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:57.880
sometimes being unvaccinated isn't a perfectly appropriate disposition. Those are

602
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.400
the doctors that I would want you to see, not

603
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.840
somebody who is so dogmatic and makes money from these products,

604
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.440
and they're not willing to be open to the idea

605
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.639
that maybe, just maybe not every one of these vaccines

606
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.880
is necessary, like the technis shot like hepatitis B in

607
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.880
a two day old baby, for example, and that we

608
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.119
should alter the way we do things if we're going

609
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.719
to use these vaccines. Why isn't there a standalone measles

610
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.559
vaccine for residents in Texas that want that? And they

611
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:35.199
don't want a rubella vaccine because rubella is otherwise pretty

612
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.519
mild at German measles and they don't want it, and

613
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.320
it was grown in aborted fetal cells. Why don't we

614
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.400
do that? Because it's not cost effective and the vaccine

615
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.360
companies are interested in maximizing their bottom line in many

616
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.079
many cases. So this needs to change. I hope under

617
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.519
RFKJ it will. He's only been in office for like

618
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.519
fifteen minutes and so we'll see as he moves along.

619
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:07.440
Absolutely, doctor Barky, I want to give Barque Barquie Barquie.

620
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.199
I said it right the first time. You know, I

621
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.559
get it in my head. You know I get it

622
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.599
in my head. But I want to give you the

623
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:18.599
last words, sir, to just share with us, tell us

624
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.079
a little bit about the book. We do have it

625
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:26.000
scrolling there at the bottom so people can know where

626
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:26.400
to go.

627
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:31.599
And so you know, doctor Gear, who is an IVY

628
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.719
League trained emergency room physician now retired, is a phenomenal

629
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.360
technical writer. He did most of the heavy lifting on

630
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.440
this book. We designed this book to be a guide

631
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.079
for parents. It's not science y. It's very accessible and

632
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.320
readable to somebody even without a health or science background.

633
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.920
So it's for parents, it's for grandparents, it's for anybody

634
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.199
that wants to learn about the childhood vaccine schedule. We're

635
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.559
very proud that Peter Mca himself wrote a blurb for

636
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.320
the book. Bell Bigtree wrote the foreword. My dear friend

637
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.960
Kirk Cameron wrote a blurb for the book as well.

638
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.639
So it's an easy read. There are sections about what

639
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.679
questions you should ask your pediatrician or vaccine provider, and

640
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.440
I hope you'll take a look at it to use

641
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.199
it as a guidebook as you move through your childhood

642
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.679
years with your kids or your grandkids.

643
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.159
Thank you so much. We are so grateful, sir that

644
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.360
you came on to talk with us today. It's a

645
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.199
great conversation It's a conversation that we need to continue

646
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.440
to have, especially now with so many questions coming up,

647
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.920
so much information, and so many parents who are now

648
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.679
going to the internet to find out what their children

649
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:56.880
are being given. We appreciate very much that you shared

650
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:00.960
with us today your information about your book. We want

651
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.199
people to go and get your book. We can see

652
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.719
the title right there. I also want you all to

653
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.719
know that it was wonderful to be with you all today.

654
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.559
I'm very grateful for you. Thank you for coming and

655
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:20.480
putting your comments in the section. Remember that resistance is

656
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:24.280
not futile, and blessings to you all always.

657
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:25.119
Thank you, Mick.

658
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.079
It's time to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

659
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:06.920
let's speak intentional.