April 8, 2025

Woke Education

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Our guest for today’s show is Ana Hibbs (Host of the “Let’s Talk” Podcast) who is the daughter of Steve Deace (Host of the “Steve Deace Show”). She is with us to discuss recent developments on our nation’s college campuses.

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for us to stand up, speak out, get involved, and

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let's be intentional. So possibly one of the biggest blessings

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from the twenty twenty lockdowns of COVID was that the

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children were having to go to school on remote learning.

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That's when the parents really seemed to see what the

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system had been teaching them. They weren't learning reading, writing,

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and arithmetic, or how to be free thinking, responsible adults.

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Oh no, no, no, they were being indoctrinated with woke propaganda,

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learning they were an oppressor or a victim. They were

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learning queer theory one oh one, or that they should

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maybe question their gender identity. The woke mind virus was

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not just k through twelve. As the light was exposing

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that the American universities were pushing diversity, equity and inclusion,

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we came face to face with the reality that our

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children were infused with extreamist ideologies, anti Semitism, and Marxism.

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So when we began to see the rise of violent

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riots across our college campuses in twenty twenty three, in

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twenty twenty four, it was no surprise to learn that

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two hundred of our American colleges and universities illegally withheld

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information on approximately thirteen billion in undocumented contributions from foreign governments,

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many of which were authoritarian. So who was influencing our children?

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This information came through an organization called Network Contagion Research Institute.

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They released their findings in twenty twenty three, and it

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was focused on concealed foreign funding of US higher education.

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It's pretty sad to think about truly. Now the whole

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entire Department of Education seems to be full of activists.

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From administrators to your professors to the teachers. They're more

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interested in creating social justice warriors who need a safe

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space rather than building up a bright and energetic mind

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of a future leader. Is it any wonder that the

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recent Epoch Times poll showed that out of thirty one

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thousand people that were pulled, eighty five percent supported ending

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the Department of Education. Well, today we are going to

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discuss woke education and just do a little bit of

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chit chatting with Anna Hibbs. She is the host of

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Let's Talk Podcasts. So welcome Anna. Thanks for being on

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the show with us today.

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Yes, thank you for having me. Thank you. I appreciate

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your offer to have me on. Yeah, well, it is.

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An honor to have you on. I love being able

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to talk to other podcasters and especially about education, and uh,

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you know, I don't want to point out any differences here,

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but but you're you're in the younger generation, right, you

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have a new baby, right, I mean, yes, you're you're

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like right in that niche. So I am excited to

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hear your thoughts and your insights and and anything that

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you want to lay upon my brain. I'm hoping to it.

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Thank you. Yeah, I you know, I have a little

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bit of a different perspective when it comes to education.

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I was homeschooled growing up, but a lot of my

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friends went to public school. And then later in life,

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when I kind of got into high school, a lot

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of the people that I did act like local activities

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with also went to public school, and so I kind

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of started to see a little bit. You know, how

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do you know the public school kids dunt, dun, dun.

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You know, how do they you know, do school? Like,

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how what are they learning? And I realized, you know,

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a lot of the things that I'm learning about, you know,

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American history or just simple you know, math or you

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know language arts. You know, when I was in middle school,

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I was reading at like a college level because I

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had all of that time to sit and read, or

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I had the time to study myself. And when I

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kind of got into high school and I started meeting

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these other high schoolers who were going to public school,

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I started to realize, you know, okay, wow, you guys

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are not as advanced as you would think. You know,

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for the longest time, it was homeschoolers were the ones

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that had the disadvantage because you know, we weren't going

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to school with teachers and everything else. And then I

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was kind of starting to see that, you know, their

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focus became less and less and less on you know,

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the basics of learning and more so about you know,

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how can we make this about the things that are

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happening in in the culture. So that's a little bit

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about about kind of where I stand as far as

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public school goes.

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Yeah, well, just to have full transparency. One, I don't

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have children, but but two, I was raised in Catholic schools, uh,

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Catholic education. I was raised on the East Coast, and

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so everybody there went to you know, Catholic schools or

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you know, some sort of you know, parochial education, and

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so when I came to Oklahoma, I was way more

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ahead of the kids who were in public education.

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You know.

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So that was always really interesting to me, you know,

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and uh, you know, kind of a different perspective there.

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But I wanted to kind of see what you think

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because not having children, and you know, spending all of

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my years really kind of focused on the healthcare industry

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as a nurse, and you know, doing all that, I

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really didn't think about what was going on in our

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education department, and I really don't think that I recognized

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what was happening until the twenty twenty event occurred. And

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you know, I really remember kind of first thinking about

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hearing the word critical race theory. And I believe that

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was in twenty twenty because I was with a couple

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friends of mine. They had kids in school, and they

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kept talking about social emotional learning, and I was like,

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social emotional learning, what is that? I don't know what

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that is, And so I started looking it up and

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I came across the Collaborative for Academic Social and Emotional

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Learning or CASTLE, and I didn't know what they were either, Anna,

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So I looked them up and I was shocked. I

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really was, you know, I mean, you know, I'm not anymore.

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But when I first saw they were really funded by

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Bill and Melinda Gates, the chan Zuckerberg Initiative. They were

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funded by a group called Novo Foundation, and they did

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a lot of funding also from Planned Parenthood and Black

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Lives Matter, and so I was like, what in the world.

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And I was kind of like digging in, you know,

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It's like they they kind of like looking at their website,

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they went back to like twenty eleven and they started

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this initiative with these twenty they called them large complex

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school districts. They focused on like one point seven million students,

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and Oklahoma happened to be one of theirs, the Tulsa District,

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And so that kind of perked up my ears little bit.

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But you know, I really think that the thing that

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got me the most, the thing that really turned my

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head about education, was when I started looking at and

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they had it on their website. I don't know if

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it's still there, but Castle in twenty twenty they changed

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their definition of social emotional learning and they put in

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transformative social emotional learning, and they adjusted their core competencies

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and they started teaching through them. I mean, they were

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very transparent about it. They started teaching through the lens

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of racial and equity. They started using words like self

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awareness through social identities, and then they started talking about

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things like self management and regulating emotional behavior. And then

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they actually came out and said behaviors to promote social

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emotional outcomes and social justice warriors. I mean, that was

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kind of my movie where when I didn't have that

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when I was in school, did I mean, I reading writing,

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arithmetic a pe which I hated yes, yes, recess Tommy,

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were all like, you try doing homeschool pee.

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You're only doing PE with your two other siblings or

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whatever siblings you have, Okay, trying home school PE.

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I mean being a homeschool a person who went through homeschooling.

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I didn't want to call you a homeschool child. I

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almost went there homeschool Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, just

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throw it out there.

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Yeah, but I wear the badge. I wear the badge

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with honor. No jean skirts though, no gene skirts over here.

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But I wear the homeschool badge with honor.

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Yes, and you should because you know, I mean, those

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are the kids who really are turning out to be

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the ones who are well adjusted, able to handle society

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and really have those core values. But did you know

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this about the public schools? I mean kind of like,

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did you kind of like understand that's what was happening

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because you were in homeschooling. Did your parents exposure to

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any of that? So?

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I think the first time that I really realized that

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public schools were kind of taking a different turn was

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I was I actually had a boyfriend who was in

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public school, who I'd met kind of through theater here

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in Des Moines, Iowa. And you know, he was doing

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some homework. I was doing some homework, which people are

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always like, homework, aren't you homeschooled? Anyways, the joke is old,

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but I was doing some homework. I was. I was,

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and you know, I realized, you know, typical grading, you know,

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you usually get like a sixty out of one hundred

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or one hundred out of one hundred, or an A

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or a B. And I'm looking over at his paper

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and I'm like, what are all these like extra words

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that I'm seeing. And he was like, well, my school,

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you know, has changed their grading. We don't get actual

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grades anymore. It's not an A or a B or

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a sixty out of one hundred. It's keep at it.

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It's great job, it's try better next time. And he

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was in high school. We were seniors in high school

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at the time when I was dating him. This isn't

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an elementary school where it's like, oh, buddy, you know, hey, buddy,

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keep at it.

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He was almost.

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Eighteen years old being told, you know, if he had

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a bad grade on a test, keep at it, buddy.

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And that's when I'm starting to realize, like, why are

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we treating this so soft. These people are about to

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go out into the world and and face a lot

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of different things, with a lot of different opinions, and

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so I would say that's probably the first time where

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I really realized, you know, things, different things were happening,

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but the same thing happened with me, which was in

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twenty twenty when everything kind of hit the fan, and

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especially because of the Libs of TikTok account on X

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that was to me as I started to see this stuff,

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I truly started realizing, like, oh, because we are made

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to be the crazy people. You know, Oh, that was

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one classroom that had one rainbow flag. You guys need

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to calm down. Or that was one classroom you know

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that did this one thing. Everybody chill out. And you know,

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Libs of TikTok was producing like ten plus videos a

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day of classrooms all over you know, the country, and

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some of them were as little as preschoolers. I don't

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know if you remember this. It was and I don't

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remember the specifics, but it was. I think it was

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during Black History Month a middle school. You know, all

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of the white kids were men made to like sit

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in the corner and they were not allowed to do

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playtime at you know, the black kids were playing in

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the middle and doing all this stuff because they needed

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to recognize their white privilege during this month and let

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the black children play. And Lives of TikTok posted that

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video and I'll never forget it because obviously, you know,

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there are things here and there, but that was the

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one where I was like, Okay, making kids feel bad

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because their skin is different than others is not what

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public schools are set out to do, you know, and

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it's it That's when I realized, you guys are going

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against your own narrative. Everybody's supposed to be welcome unless

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you're the person that we don't want to be welcome

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at that case and point. And so that those two things,

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my boyfriend and then those kinds of videos were kind

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of my way of seeing what was happening. And then

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just doing theater here locally, Like I said, I had

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a lot of interaction with public school kids. You know,

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a lot of homeschoolers didn't do the local theater because

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it was very liberal, very you know, politically intense, and

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when I had first started, it wasn't really like that.

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And then, of course, because of overtime it just grew

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and grew and grew, and in that setting, you know,

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everybody feels a little bit more comfortable to share. And

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I'll never forget coming out of after a rehearsal, this

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girl stood up on the stage and she's like, I

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need everybody to sit down. I need to make an announcement.

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And she announced to us that she was, now, you know,

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a boy, and we all needed to you know, coincide

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with that, and everybody was clapping. And it's just situations

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like that that really made me realize, you know, I

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was raised differently. I at that point, I was like,

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I will will be raising my children differently one day,

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and just I can't be in this environment anymore. I

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think that that's something that you know, and I will

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ruffle some feathers by saying this, that you know, when

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you're sending your kids to public school, it's not the

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same anymore. You know, they're not going to be these

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amazing warriors for Christ when they're in one. You can't

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because like I absolutely drowned when I was in that situation.

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I wasn't prepared. And it's also a lot to put

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on a child. I was fourteen years old doing that

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kind of stuff. You know, I'm not spiritually you know,

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ready or just emotionally ready to take on that that

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kind of battle. And so when you're sending your kids

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to a public school situation like that where you can't

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be there, you know, twenty four to seven with them

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to encourage them and maybe they're not with other students,

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you're basically sending them to drown.

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Yeah, right on, No, totally. And you know when you

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were talking about your boyfriend that that's not who you married, wasn't.

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No, oh no, that's not what I meant where you were.

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You know, when you were talking about your boyfriend, he

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was getting the you know, right on at a boy

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keep going. It reminded me of, you know, sort of

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the the participation Trophy generation where you know, everybody gets

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a gold star, everybody's good, you know, everybody gets a win.

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And then I I saw this the other day where

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I guess there is a young lady. Her name is

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Alicia Ortez. She's nineteen years old, and she alleges that

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she cannot read or write. She says she graduated with

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honors from Hartford Public High School in twenty twenty four,

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and now she's filed this lawsuit against Harford and their

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Board of Education. I mean, she's like accusing them of

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negligence failing to provide her with adequate special education services.

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I mean, I'm just thinking to myself, I wonder, and

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we know that our scores are good, you know, so

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you have to kind of wonder how many of them

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now are in the workforce and they can't read, can't write,

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can't function well.

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You also have to think too, you know, like you

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were saying, it is in some ways a blessing how

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kids had to do school at home because then parents

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were allowed to see. But you have to kind of

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fast forward to the college kids who were doing school

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at home. It left plenty of room for cheating. It

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left plenty of room for googling answers, you know, it

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left plenty of room for quizlets, which are basically just

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online flash cards where you can look up the question

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to any test. It brings up the whole entire test,

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and then it has all of the correct answers. You know,

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these are our future doctors, our future lawyers, our future surgeons,

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and they're at home, you know, cheating on tests and

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getting away with it. Because basically America has given up

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on them due to COVID, and so that's something else

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to kind of keep in mind as well.

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Yeah, you know, you talked about the college students, so

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I want to kind of talk about them a little bit, Anna.

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You know, and I've said this before, but the college

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campuses have really become these these terrorist training camps, and

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I mean that they are now like your hotspot destination

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if you want to send your child to become like

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a a Marxist who learns how a riot or incite violence.

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I mean it's against all Americans, but particularly Jewish students.

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It's really the anti Semitism is just off the charts high.

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And I can remember when I went to college, it

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was to be educated. Well, I paid my own way.

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My parents didn't pay for my college, but I wanted

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to be a nurse, and so I did whatever's necessary

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to study. And now they seem to be these breeding

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grounds of anti Semitic hate. I mean they're brutal, Anna,

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and there's like lawlessness. What was it the other day,

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there was uh, somebody who was a teacher, jose Felipe. Oh,

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I'm probably not going to say his name, right, a

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laguage Alba. Anyhow, he flips over this table of this

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student who's supporting Brad Schimmel for Wisconsin Supreme Court race,

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and I'm thinking, wow, why are why are they so angry?

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Is this like social contagion? You're angry, I'm angry. We're

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all angry. I mean, they're out there protesting every day,

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all day long. They're not going to classes. I don't

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even know if they're enroll or not. I mean, it

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seems like it's just one big we're we're in an

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angry party. So I don't know if it's social contagion,

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if they're if they're like getting paid for it, like

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it's a George Soros and divisible staging. You know, let's

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go along and hold up these hand these signs that

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we made. Or are they just angry to be angry?

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I think it would be extremely easy to be that

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angry if you were taught to hate yourself your whole life.

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And you have to think about that with you know,

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we were just talking about that. Elementary schools and middle

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schools into high school, you're taught essentially, you know, you've

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got to be queer. You're not queer at all. Oh okay,

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So that's one reason to hate yourself. Oh you're white,

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Well you owned my ancestors, so now you need to

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hate yourself. Oh you're a Christian, which means you don't

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support me, so now you need to hate yourself. Or

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you're Jewish, so you don't support me, So you need

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to hate yourself. That would tend to build up a

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lot of anger. And even you know, some of these

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people who you know, it's illustrated amazingly and Matt Walsh's

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documentary you know, am I a racist? At the very

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end when he's you know, oh my gosh, your name escapes,

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But when he's interviewing that woman and she he basically

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gets her to pay him pay his black assistant amends

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for all of the things that her past generations did.

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So even people who are like hardcore liberals and believe

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themselves believe this stuff, are taught to now of hate

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themselves and owe something to somebody because you see all

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these people on college campuses being interviewed you know, well,

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do you know that you know if you were gay

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in this country, they would kill you. Oh I didn't

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know that, you know what I'm saying, you know, And

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so there's a lot of things they're protesting things they

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don't understand. A lot of it is because they're extremely

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easily influenced. And you see that, and I've seen that

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when I've tried to have conversations with, you know, my

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past friends about this kind of stuff, you know, like

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why do you believe this stuff?

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Well?

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Why do you do this? Well? Why do you do that?

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They get angry because they don't know because their friends

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are doing it, so they will do it, you know,

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Or they'll be like, why did you come to this

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protest today? You'll see people interviewing, Oh, well, my friend

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told me to be here at this time. I'm so

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I'm here. So I think a lot of it comes

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from just an an absolute hatred of themselves because they

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either they're great, great, great, great great great whatever owned

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a slave, or they don't believe in this, or they

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don't believe in that. So and it just comes from

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a lot of being you know, easily easily influenced as

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children growing up and then into this and then you're

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seeing the product of what we were seeing, you know,

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in twenty twenty high schools and everything, you know, in

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twenty twenty three high schools. Now getting into college, you're

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seeing this product product, because it also comes down to,

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you know, you can't at the end of the day

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love everything and love everyone and everything. There's got to

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be somewhere to stop. And so you're seeing now this

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basically it's like the Purge honestly is what we're seeing,

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and the Purge movie is you know, if for people

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who don't know, it's basically twenty four hours of whatever

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you want, just to get whatever you want out. We

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are seeing that in real time on college campuses. Just

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whatever you kind of want to do, you would just

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kind of do it, but you're seeing it now playing

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out negatively, whether that's you know, anti semitic behavior at

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college campuses, whether that's like biological men beating women up.

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You know, and you're seeing this over and over again,

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just everywhere, all of the time.

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